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GT vs GTS #189137 May 31, 1:08pm May 31, 1:08pm
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GT vs GTS
i heard GT has some aspecs that are better than GTS. what are they?

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: ghostingcelica] #189138 May 31, 1:10pm May 31, 1:10pm
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GT actually has some power under 6200 rpm laughsilly


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: NorwayGT] #189139 May 31, 2:45pm May 31, 2:45pm
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the GT has a little bit more torque than the gts, also the gt comes with a lower compression ratio so you can use FI more safely grin


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: fastceli2001] #189140 May 31, 3:06pm May 31, 3:06pm
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you're right about the lower compression ratio:

GT = 10.0:1
GTS = 11.5:1

...but the GTS has 130 lb-ft of torque while the GT has 125 (granted the latter is at 4200 rpm while the former is 6800)

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: Sultan] #189141 May 31, 3:21pm May 31, 3:21pm
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GT has the TRD Supercharger available... and the DC Headers were released while GTS ones are in the final stages of development. Also, the GT can handle more NOS then the GTS

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: GraSSRooTs] #189142 May 31, 4:07pm May 31, 4:07pm
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The GTS costs more for a reason. Yeah sure Turbo NOS w/e. Thats' all you hear about? But how many people on here have NOS? How about Turbo? Not too many. Why can't we all just accept the fact that the GTS is better than the GT. Jeeze. Oh but the lower compression rate you say? Who cares what you say. rofl

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: CelicasROCK] #189143 May 31, 4:09pm May 31, 4:09pm
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please people...say nitrous, and not "NOS"


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: CelicasROCK] #189144 May 31, 4:10pm May 31, 4:10pm

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Originally Posted by CelicasROCK
The GTS costs more for a reason. Yeah sure Turbo NOS w/e. Thats' all you hear about? But how many people on here have NOS? How about Turbo? Not too many. Why can't we all just accept the fact that the GTS is better than the GT. Jeeze. Oh but the lower compression rate you say? Who cares what you say. rofl
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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: VSGTS14] #189146 May 31, 4:37pm May 31, 4:37pm
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i am still kicking around the idea of doing an engine swap, but if i dont i will have a whole lot of engine work done to what i have now and i will be stomping some GTSs tongue

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: Nautique65] #189147 May 31, 5:01pm May 31, 5:01pm
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GT > GTS ->IMO (cuz Im getting a Turbo for mine)


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: CelicasROCK] #189148 May 31, 6:58pm May 31, 6:58pm
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i love all celicas regardless...but that uh...low-hi compression info ain't no fairy tale.

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: RyCeCuBe] #189149 May 31, 9:24pm May 31, 9:24pm
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GT's just look cool.


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: MxReb0] #189150 Jun 1, 12:15am Jun 1, 12:15am
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u can just run less psi on a gts and get just as much power as the gt with more psi because of the higher compression
GTS>GT always


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: MxReb0] #189151 Jun 1, 1:13am Jun 1, 1:13am
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Originally Posted by MxReb0
GT's just look cool.

Yeah the look a lot better then the GTS I agree..
Duwd wtf ? you from the stone ages?? the GT and GTS look exactly the same :S only the engine is a bit different :S

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: SaddY] #189152 Jun 1, 5:55am Jun 1, 5:55am
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Originally Posted by SaddY
Originally Posted by MxReb0
GT's just look cool.

Yeah the look a lot better then the GTS I agree..
Duwd wtf ? you from the stone ages?? the GT and GTS look exactly the same :S only the engine is a bit different :S


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: Erick022121] #189153 Jun 1, 7:39am Jun 1, 7:39am
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GTS, there's a reason why they cost more.


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: jyboygenius] #189154 Jun 1, 7:52am Jun 1, 7:52am
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TRD has a blower for the GT??!!!!! is it the one listed for the 1.8 motor thats on their web-page?


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the GT isnt listed in the applications on the TRD USA web-page


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Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
u can just run less psi on a gts and get just as much power as the gt with more psi because of the higher compression
GTS>GT always


no, wrong,
with the same psi for both, the gt blows the gts away, especially with tq...so, if you run less psi on the gts and more on the gt and you say you will have the same, no the gt will have more!!


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: qbanprepster21] #189158 Jun 1, 9:49am Jun 1, 9:49am
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there is no better model, if you are going to run full N/A, the gts is the best model to this with, if you want to run F/I, then the gt is your best option, so there is no better, but if you ask for what type of mods, then yeah you have your better, but only becuase gt is better for f/i then gts and gts is better for n/a then gt, thats it, and about the tq, gt doesnt have more, but it has more lower end tq, at a lower rpm, so it gets to its peak faster, so its torqier, but again its all about what you want to do to it!!


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: qbanprepster21] #189159 Jun 1, 9:58am Jun 1, 9:58am
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Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
u can just run less psi on a gts and get just as much power as the gt with more psi because of the higher compression
GTS>GT always


no, wrong,
with the same psi for both, the gt blows the gts away, especially with tq...so, if you run less psi on the gts and more on the gt and you say you will have the same, no the gt will have more!!
Same PSI ran on both will put the GTS on top. The GT does benefit from a greater gain percentage wise, but the GTS will still be faster.


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...OK, but will the TRD blower fit on the GT. the fact that its not listed as such on the TRD web-page doesnt seem right. also, are there different pullies for the TRD blowers?


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: crystalfreak] #189161 Jun 1, 11:07am Jun 1, 11:07am
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Originally Posted by crystalfreak
...OK, but will the TRD blower fit on the GT. the fact that its not listed as such on the TRD web-page doesnt seem right. also, are there different pullies for the TRD blowers?


as I implied before, the TRD S/C does fit in the celica - only issue is Hood clearance, which can be alleviated with a custom fab... this topic has been discussed many times before. A search may help clarify things a bit better for you

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Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
u can just run less psi on a gts and get just as much power as the gt with more psi because of the higher compression
GTS>GT always


no, wrong,
with the same psi for both, the gt blows the gts away, especially with tq...so, if you run less psi on the gts and more on the gt and you say you will have the same, no the gt will have more!!
Same PSI ran on both will put the GTS on top. The GT does benefit from a greater gain percentage wise, but the GTS will still be faster.


the gts is not going to be faster, first of all its lighter, 2nd of all, when the gt was pushed with 6psi and the gts with 8, the gt with 6psi already had more tq then the gts with 8psi, and only had under 20hp less then the gts with 8 psi, so if you were to put 8psi on the gt, then youll obviously have more tq them the gts, and you'll be able to push more then 20 hp, which will put you at more power then the gts, especially with a lot more lbs of tq, so how again do you imply that the gts will be faster, just becuase you might have a gts and you think yours is the fastest over the gt, doesnt mean it wil always be that way!!!


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: qbanprepster21] #189163 Jun 1, 1:41pm Jun 1, 1:41pm
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gts will always be faster dude, i haven't seen too many GT's taht have run more hp out of a Turbo than any GTS, other than that one guys, but he has lower compression pistons and is running like 14psi or something at 304whp that is one beast i must say


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just go to SF website and look at the dyno's. they explain it all!!


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: qbanprepster21] #189165 Jun 1, 6:27pm Jun 1, 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
just go to SF website and look at the dyno's. they explain it all!!


thumbsup I totally agree ..


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: mr_celica] #189166 Jun 1, 9:39pm Jun 1, 9:39pm
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well it would be an oxymoron to buy the low end model of a car if you want to hook it up no? if you want a car with a Turbo then why not buy a car with one thats built for it? plus GTS has 40 hp on you...can you jack the psi that much more than a GTS to make 40 hp without changing internals? then you factor in the gear ratio's and such. it just seems stupid to me. anyways i have no hate for GT's by any means but i bought the GTS because i wanted more from my car. more toys and such.

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like i said in a previuos post, gt and gts are better then each other, there is no comparason, heres why!! If you want a car that you can get full N/A out of, go with GTS, if you want to F/I, go with GT, Just the way the engines are made is the reason!! And the GTS Has 40 Hp on me, okay, take away that Lift, and you have 140, but your heavier, so you wont have that to the wheel!! Plus because of that Lift and high compression is the reason why GT is better for F/I, so there is no better Car!!


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: qbanprepster21] #189168 Jun 2, 2:44am Jun 2, 2:44am
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the GTS is only like 60 lbs more than GT eek


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Pfft look people. if you put a Turbo on a GT and a GTs the GT will winn. the Bore/strokes of the motors are different the GTs is better suited to Turbo. PLUS with 11.5 compressin more than 8psi is BAD! can we say stretchign head bolts? even 10:1 is not great but its 12 psi good. As for the supercharger itd eat up a Turbo gts alive because beetween the lift and the Turbo lag the gt would be long gone before the gts spooled up AND THEN hit lift. AND youd have to use a large Turbo to overcome the LIFT changign the volume of air going into the 2zz. (deep breath) in short you ppl who bough the GTS ... so sorry wink j.p its a beautiful car.


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: NorwayGT] #189171 Jun 2, 11:15pm Jun 2, 11:15pm
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
please people...say nitrous, and not "NOS"


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: BaTMaN_4] #189172 Jun 2, 11:33pm Jun 2, 11:33pm
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what if you change internals on the GTS?
would there still be lift?

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if you change the internals on a gts yes there would still be lift, that has something to do with the cams!!!


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: qbanprepster21] #189174 Jun 3, 8:07am Jun 3, 8:07am

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bottom line.i think that if we all had a choice we would have bought a gts..i bought a gt..and yes ive heard things on how the GT is better to work on. But who knows..we are all spitting out half facts. i have a gt and i love it...but we cant compate gt to gts ..why?..because we are talking about modding our cars...we arent talking about stock vs stock..cause we know stock vs stock ..gts owns. BUTTTT when it comes to aftermarket and modding...it all depends on who has what..thats about it. those are my 2 cents...im jerry springer...and god bless.

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Originally Posted by vietnamese2004
what if you change internals on the GTS?
would there still be lift?


sure! lift is a function built in to the cylinder head. if you were to do a 100% new bottom end, port the head, and new valves, springs and all that the 'lift" will still be there.


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: crystalfreak] #189176 Jun 3, 9:01am Jun 3, 9:01am
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auto-xers prefer GT rather than GTS'...look at every auto-x forum and thread and that is the general consensus...why? many auto-xers say they love the low/mid range tq curve that helps in "cone chasing" thumbsup


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Re: GT vs GTS [Re: ct] #189177 Jun 9, 6:45pm Jun 9, 6:45pm
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Just a thought... but if the GT engine was so much better why didn't Lotus choose to put that in the Elise instead of the GTS engine??

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: HJC_Celica] #189178 Jun 9, 6:50pm Jun 9, 6:50pm
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Its not that the GT engine is better, it can just handle more boost from a Turbo due to lower compression. But the GTS can also be lowered. Also, the GT has more power down low, hence it beating a GTS in Auto X.

I think they used the GTS engine because it was a better choice to. They wanted a fast car, without having to mod it out in the elise. Though it would still be fast with a GT engine, it wouldnt be as fast. But yeah, the GT engine has advantages so I dont rip on them.

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: LostAngel] #189179 Jun 9, 8:35pm Jun 9, 8:35pm
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i prefer a GT-R engine. (a skyline engine not some ricer badge glued on to civics and whatnot) grin rofl

stop fighting. here to settle this argument about the gt and GTS i have came to one conclusion:
---both models are slow compared to the RSX-S hahahahaha

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Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
gts will always be faster dude, i haven't seen too many GT's taht have run more hp out of a Turbo than any GTS, other than that one guys, but he has lower compression pistons and is running like 14psi or something at 304whp that is one beast i must say

Any GT with a Turbo will own a GTS NA. GTS is faster stock, (aside from auto. Evidently, Auto GT is faster than auto GTS). GTS is a pure NA car, with little boost potential, unlike the GT, where there is a lot less compression.

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: dennis_dup1] #189181 Jun 9, 9:07pm Jun 9, 9:07pm
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Just buy a DC2 Type-R, build the bottom end, and boost it to 2 bar wink.

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Can i shoot you all? This is the dumbest topic ever! This thread should be locked and deleted. All of you are crying about which one is better when they are basically the same just one has a little more power. We all have Celicas here or used to at some point. You guys are like bashing eachother rides.


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Yeah, the vid I posted r0x0r.

Integra burning a Ferrari? BWAHAHAHHA! wink

Re: GT vs GTS [Re: MxReb0] #189184 Jun 9, 11:09pm Jun 9, 11:09pm
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Originally Posted by MxReb0
GT's just look cool.

don't they all look the same? just different badges? hehe


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Plain and simple...
The GT can handle more boost.
The GTS can lower its compression to add more boost.


Add a Turbo setup to each car, using the same amount of boost, the GTS can take the GT. Add more boost to the GT, the GT can take the GTS. Lower the compression in the GTS, so you can add more boost, the GTS can take the GT. The cars will ladder over each other in 'fastness' until the lowest compression you can run (and still be fast) is achieved.

I love the GT, I love the GTS. As i've said in many posts...this is a celica community. The GT has advantages over the GTS, GTS has some over the GT.

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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Plain and simple...
The GT can handle more boost.
The GTS can lower its compression to add more boost.


Add a Turbo setup to each car, using the same amount of boost, the GTS can take the GT. Add more boost to the GT, the GT can take the GTS. Lower the compression in the GTS, so you can add more boost, the GTS can take the GT. The cars will ladder over each other in 'fastness' until the lowest compression you can run (and still be fast) is achieved.

I love the GT, I love the GTS. As i've said in many posts...this is a celica community. The GT has advantages over the GTS, GTS has some over the GT.


Right on the motha fuckin money! thumbsup

Of course, you never really know how the two motors will react to boost. (considering the GTS motor was built strictly for N/A power) tongue

Different Turbos will make different hp output, some have better air flow, etc et al. tongue.

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