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Must I replace struts when Lowering? #184434 May 24, 1:06pm May 24, 1:06pm
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Must I replace struts when Lowering?
I Have a set of TRD lowering springs for my 03 GTS, some people are telling me that I must upgrade my struts if I put them on.

Others are telling me that they will be fine with my stock struts that only have 9700mi on them. Any suggestions on this?

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: GTS2003BLK] #184435 May 24, 1:06pm May 24, 1:06pm
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you'll be fine with TRD and stock struts

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: RicePowered] #184436 May 24, 1:16pm May 24, 1:16pm
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the one's who are telling you that you must upgrade don't know jack. your stock struts only have 9700 miles, they'll last 2,3,4 yrs, it all depends how much you drive & what your driving habits are.

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: v3n0m] #184437 May 24, 1:25pm May 24, 1:25pm
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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: GTS2003BLK] #184438 May 24, 1:29pm May 24, 1:29pm
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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: v3n0m] #184439 May 24, 1:37pm May 24, 1:37pm
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Originally Posted by v3n0m
the one's who are telling you that you must upgrade don't know jack. your stock struts only have 9700 miles, they'll last 2,3,4 yrs, it all depends how much you drive & what your driving habits are.


this is true...when i had TRD springs installed i already had 70K on my stock struts and lasted me 3 months...plus i took corners like a mo-fo...lol


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: ct] #184440 May 24, 1:41pm May 24, 1:41pm
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you'll be fine in the stock shocks and struts for some time, I have 5k on mine so far and all is good thumbsup


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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: JBing] #184441 May 24, 4:29pm May 24, 4:29pm
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TRD SPINGS ARE A JOKE YOUR NOT GUNNA NOTICE THE DIFFRENCE ...=) JUST REPLACE THE WHOLE SETUP

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: GTS2003BLK] #184442 May 24, 4:40pm May 24, 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by GTS2003BLK
I can go cruising Low and Slow, that is the tempo... thumbsup


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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: OBi3] #184443 May 24, 5:38pm May 24, 5:38pm
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good luck and post pics after if you can

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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: YoshiVS] #184444 May 24, 10:44pm May 24, 10:44pm
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TRD springs r eibach springs with TRD's logo on it


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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: PyRoLiTe] #184445 Jun 2, 4:32pm Jun 2, 4:32pm
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After reading the following I decided to wait and save up for new stiffer struts to go with my lowering springs.

http://www.koni.com/_cars/frame.html

"The use of lowering springs requires special damping characteristics: the mere application of stiffer springs together with ordinary shock absorbers often has a negative impact on road-holding and comfort, and may even lead to dangerous situations."

And this from SportCompactCar's site about their 2K Project Celica: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0106scc_projcelica/

"We accomplished our goal of good looks with a set of Progress springs, but without stiffer shocks, we could do nothing about the lack of damping. Riding lowered on the stock shocks, the car felt slightly disconnected--like it was hovering a few inches above the ground. All too frequently, however, our hovercar would seem to scrape the ground as it crashed into the bumpstops. Despite rear springs that were proportionally stiffer than the fronts, the car seemed to lose its playful handling with the lower springs as well. This is, unfortunately, pretty normal for a car with lowering springs.

and finally this:
https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/thread.f_253784_0_collapsed_5__1.html

Just wanted to post this in case somebody was contemplating the same thing I was and they read this thread.

If youre just going for looks springs alone are fine, if youre concerned about handling as well then upgrade springs and struts.

Sure, coil-overs would be best, but too much money for me at this point in time.

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: GTS2003BLK] #184446 Jun 2, 6:45pm Jun 2, 6:45pm
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TRD springs wont stress you struts...everything is gon be all good

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: darksidecelica] #184447 Jun 2, 8:18pm Jun 2, 8:18pm
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I beg to differ. With my stock suspension at 20,000 miles it losened up way too much. The consensus says at 10,000 to 20,000 maybe 15,000 miles (that's the first year and a half). You drop your car on springs alone and don't allow for a shortened strut especially with damping, your going to be riding on blown struts, whether you know it or not, in no time. You would be better to upgrade to something else while the springs are being replaced. If you can do it yourself, then who cares (it is easy). Don't be suprised when in a year things seem to be well worn and loose.

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: hephaestus] #184448 Jun 2, 8:21pm Jun 2, 8:21pm
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I guess that's what you were saying GTS2003BLK.

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: hephaestus] #184449 Jun 3, 7:19am Jun 3, 7:19am

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i have the eibach pro kit...definitly was disappointed when i saw it done..not much a difference..cleaned up the gap and make everything look right(insteaed of a HUGE gap which every celica gets when you put aftermarket rims withOUT LOWERING) but its still low enough that you will sometimes bottom out if y ou dont always go on an angle when going off ramps and driveways..so its low enough to make eveyrthing look good..but you wont get the "cruisin low and slow" effect you might expect..but in all honesty..i ended up liking my TRD/eibach springs. just expected more of a drop..

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: ] #184450 Jun 3, 7:26am Jun 3, 7:26am
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i got sportlines and i bottom out on some speedbumps if any

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: rem] #184451 Jun 3, 7:59am Jun 3, 7:59am
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I got 1 put a vote in for new struts when you put your springs on, Koni is an awesome company. 2 say that I love my Tanabe springs, 1000x better looking than TRD or Eibach. I must agree that the TRD drop is a joke and not worth the money.

The Tanabe springs (GF210) give a perfect drop (rear wheels almost tuck), and a fantastic ride. On KYB, Koni, or Tokico struts you can't go wrong.

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: Gen7fan] #184452 Jun 7, 1:42pm Jun 7, 1:42pm
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I just ordered my Tanabe DF210s and the website said they would drop 2.2 in the front and 2.5 in the back. ah man, cant wait. thumbsup


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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: Tru_gts] #184453 Jun 7, 1:52pm Jun 7, 1:52pm
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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: Tru_gts] #184454 Jun 7, 3:23pm Jun 7, 3:23pm
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i have groundcontrol coilovers and i plan on replacing my struts. but so far i havent noticed any problems with mine. but you never know.

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: megamanx] #184455 Jun 7, 3:38pm Jun 7, 3:38pm
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i recently bought Progress springs (1.6f , 1.8b) i think that its gonna look real good once i get it installed.

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: Mad_Game] #184456 Jun 7, 5:27pm Jun 7, 5:27pm
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I have an 03, with Eibach Sportlines (1.8"/2.4"). I didn't change the stock struts (only 3K at the time), and I have NO probs. I'm at 12k now, and still no probs. Don't listen to them. They are still NEW struts!

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I think if you just drive around and do ur usual going to work or school and bak home or goin out wit ur girl and basically cruise around ur Hood then you dont extremely need to worry about your struts goin out on you whereas if you go to the drag strip or bust corners like a mad man then of course you should get some new struts. It all depends on how you drive. thumbsup For me, im just gonna get an alignment and maybe camber kit and thats it for the next 30,000 miles cause i knoe my driving habits. thumbsup


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Originally Posted by Tru_gts
I think if you just drive around and do ur usual going to work or school and bak home or goin out wit ur girl and basically cruise around ur Hood then you dont extremely need to worry about your struts goin out on you whereas if you go to the drag strip or bust corners like a mad man then of course you should get some new struts. It all depends on how you drive. thumbsup For me, im just gonna get an alignment and maybe camber kit and thats it for the next 30,000 miles cause i knoe my driving habits. thumbsup


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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: truboo] #184459 Jun 8, 8:42am Jun 8, 8:42am
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For daily driving.. stock shock and struts are just fine..
I've been riding on just Skunk2 lowering springs for 2 years.. and it's still all good...


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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: RedDevil] #184460 Jun 8, 9:42am Jun 8, 9:42am
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i put on my progress springs in the end of march 2004. i stayed with my stock shocks. it's june already and i must say, the ride is getting bumpier only because i drive everyday and where i live, there are so many potholes and bumps. i plan on getting new shocks soon. as for a camber kit, a friend noticed that my wheels are slightly tilted a bit due to the drop. so my next purchase will be my camber kit.


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Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: iseaniebabyi] #184461 Jun 8, 10:21am Jun 8, 10:21am
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I am putting Tanabe 2" springs on my car in the next few weeks and am still debating on whether to buy Takico or KYB AGX shocks. If I'm not going to be able to tell the difference between the two I'd rather go the cheaper (Tokico) route. But then again I'd rather the KYB if I know I"ll never have to buy shocks again. Any advice anyone? Please

Re: Must I replace struts when Lowering? [Re: expinch] #184462 Jun 8, 1:54pm Jun 8, 1:54pm
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I'm so upset that I can never get an answer on this.

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