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Turbo or supercharge #179449 May 17, 8:40am May 17, 8:40am
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Turbo or supercharge
What one would be better to do? and how much would it cost?

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Brian63] #179450 May 17, 8:41am May 17, 8:41am
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Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: spaztikid] #179451 May 17, 8:44am May 17, 8:44am
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i would go with the TRD supercharger. more safer

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Originally Posted by midnightcruiser
i would go with the trd supercharger. more safer
but doesnt fit under the Hood

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: spaztikid] #179453 May 17, 8:59am May 17, 8:59am
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sure but its easier to ask?

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: midnightcruiser] #179454 May 17, 9:46am May 17, 9:46am
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Originally Posted by midnightcruiser
i would go with the trd supercharger. more safer


even if it did fit under the Hood--its for the gt engine (1zz) only.

since he has a gts this is useless thumbsup

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #179455 May 17, 9:49am May 17, 9:49am
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turbochargers & superchargers for the gts cost around the same (4k-5k--not cheap).

all Turbochargers have a bit of a lag while superchargers work immediately.

turbochargers can usually push more whp and torque than a supercharger does.

superchargers are, as a rule of thumb, more reliable.

imo, i'd go supercharged..but blitz still hasnt released there's i don't think. the xs Turbo has some problems and the strafford Turbo seems promising as well as a grand or 2 cheaper thumbsup

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #179456 May 17, 10:15am May 17, 10:15am
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I am a fan of the supercharger but is it worth dropping that much cash for one?

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Brian63] #179457 May 17, 10:41am May 17, 10:41am
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^^ yup, if you have it to spare thumbsup

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #179458 May 17, 11:06am May 17, 11:06am
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Right now, the Strafford Turbo is the only thing I'd even think about going with. That would be one sick celi eek


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Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: RevMonster] #179459 May 17, 11:09am May 17, 11:09am
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a supercharger is a waste of money. im sure you'll have a smooth powerband, but you would be wasting a hell of a lot more than a Turbo kit and your car wouldn't be nearly as fast as a Turbo car.

a Turbo will and should last you the length of your car if you take care of it. as long as you change the oil often, check up on your parts often, let the Turbo warm up and cool down, and dont be a jackass and use common sense, a Turbo should last as long as a supercharger.

no comment on the phrase "more safer" wtf

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: fusi0n] #179460 May 17, 11:14am May 17, 11:14am
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Originally Posted by fusi0n

a supercharger is a waste of money. im sure you'll have a smooth powerband, but you would be wasting a hell of a lot more than a Turbo kit and your car wouldn't be nearly as fast as a Turbo car.

a Turbo will and should last you the length of your car if you take care of it. as long as you change the oil often, check up on your parts often, let the Turbo warm up and cool down, and dont be a jackass and use common sense, a Turbo should last as long as a supercharger.

no comment on the phrase "more safer" wtf


rofl I think that "more safter" speaks for itself.

Anyway, I don't think the supercharger is that bad of deal. Especially on our cars with the stock powerband as it is. Sure, you are pushing way higher peak numbers with the Turbo, but it's not always about peak numbers. When you drag race or even drive on the street, it's rare that you are anywhere NEAR the sweet spot in a Turbo's powerband.


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Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: RevMonster] #179461 May 17, 11:19am May 17, 11:19am
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true, the power band will be nice as hell after the supercharger, but it wont make up for the fact that our GT's will only pull high 14s out of supercharging. with a Turbo we have potential for breaking 13s on 6-7 psi and room for improvement too grin

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: fusi0n] #179462 May 17, 11:21am May 17, 11:21am
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Ah, on the GT I think that I agree with you. I was speaking more for what a supercharger would do for a GTS.


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Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: fusi0n] #179463 May 17, 11:22am May 17, 11:22am
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So who makes a good Turbo kit?

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Brian63] #179464 May 17, 11:36am May 17, 11:36am
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stafford. will. i dont think its out yet

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: stefanoc] #179465 May 17, 11:58am May 17, 11:58am
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Originally Posted by stefanoc
stafford. will. i dont think its out yet


then how can it be good?

strafford is a good company, don't get me wrong...but it's a bit premature to say that.

it should be assumed that it would be good though thumbsup

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #179466 May 17, 12:00pm May 17, 12:00pm
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but anyway--the blitz supercharger can easily push a gts to 220 whp without engine internals...which is about on par with a Turbo.

superchargers are also better for everyday driving because the powerband is still very much in use at lower rpms with a supercharger.

that sais, yes..a Turbo will give you more top-end, i've said that already. thumbsup

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #179467 May 17, 12:29pm May 17, 12:29pm
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Design and build your own. That's my future plan (after the engine warranty has run out). I haven't decided on Turbo or supercharging yet but these will help:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...nce&s=books


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/det...nce&s=books

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: goose42] #179468 May 17, 12:31pm May 17, 12:31pm
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SF, C2, XS Turbo!!! thumbsup thumbsup

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Virgilson] #179469 May 17, 3:29pm May 17, 3:29pm
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^^c2 is only for gt engine (1zz)..he has a gts.

same with TRD supercharger, don't bother.

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #179470 May 17, 5:20pm May 17, 5:20pm

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supercharger!!!!!!!!...see my avitar to the left...that is a blitz thumbsup

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Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: fusi0n] #179471 May 18, 7:20am May 18, 7:20am
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Originally Posted by fusi0n
true, the power band will be nice as hell after the supercharger, but it wont make up for the fact that our GT's will only pull high 14s out of supercharging. with a Turbo we have potential for breaking 13s on 6-7 psi and room for improvement too grin


with Turbo, you'll have higher chances or shorten the life span for your celica to break down. and yes, it does have better top-end as others had already said. have to consider if this celica is going to be on the track more often, or is it going to be on the street more???

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Well my question is it worth spending that much money to only have 240 hp?

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Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
Originally Posted by fusi0n
true, the power band will be nice as hell after the supercharger, but it wont make up for the fact that our GT's will only pull high 14s out of supercharging. with a Turbo we have potential for breaking 13s on 6-7 psi and room for improvement too grin


with Turbo, you'll have higher chances or shorten the life span for your celica to break down. and yes, it does have better top-end as others had already said. have to consider if this celica is going to be on the track more often, or is it going to be on the street more???


so explain to me exactly why it would shorten the life span of your engine? you are forcing more air into the engine, and making more power. thats it. the only way you would shorten your engine's life span is if you boosted past the limit of your engine's stock internals; then you would start to experience problems. like i said before, a Turbo should last the length of your car as long as you dont drag daily and let it warm up and cool down and use your common sense. obviously the Turbo makes more power and thus would be the better choice here.

btw, i found on post on nc showing the 1/4 mile time for the blitz supercharged gts only hitting 14s. 5000+ for 14s? hmmmm puke

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Originally Posted by Brian63
Well my question is it worth spending that much money to only have 240 hp?


what do you mean ONLY 240 hp? if you were to buy a brand new celica GT for 18,000, and invest a good 4,000 for a custom Turbo kit and internals, you're overall spending 22,000 for a 13 second car which is pretty damn good. if you are looking for more power...why did you buy the celica? im still confused about you're statement: ONLY 240? on a 2400 lb car? wtf

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Brian63] #179475 May 18, 7:36am May 18, 7:36am
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depends on ur, if you want the speed than it should b worth it. but if ur not into it you will think its not.
i think it would be grin

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: fusi0n] #179476 May 18, 8:22am May 18, 8:22am
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Originally Posted by fusi0n
Originally Posted by Brian63
Well my question is it worth spending that much money to only have 240 hp?


what do you mean ONLY 240 hp? if you were to buy a brand new celica GT for 18,000, and invest a good 4,000 for a custom Turbo kit and internals, you're overall spending 22,000 for a 13 second car which is pretty damn good. if you are looking for more power...why did you buy the celica? im still confused about you're statement: ONLY 240? on a 2400 lb car? wtf


ditto. that 'only' is like 80 more whp than a stock gts. you are boosting power by 50% which is GREAT.

reinforce the engine internals and you can boost a hella lot more than that thumbsup

Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #179477 May 18, 8:30am May 18, 8:30am
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don't bother with a FI celica, the FWD will never really harness the power, unless you drive over 120MPH or run the hell out of your car on a daily basis.

Better to spend the money on the PFC and some good tuning, as well I/H/E.

that will get you similar 1/4 times


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Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: DiabloGTS] #179478 May 18, 10:16am May 18, 10:16am
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
don't bother with a FI celica, the FWD will never really harness the power, unless you drive over 120MPH or run the hell out of your car on a daily basis.

Better to spend the money on the PFC and some good tuning, as well I/H/E.

that will get you similar 1/4 times


simliar 1/4 times? so you are trying to tell me that a I/H/E celica with a Power FC putting 180 whp would produce "similar times" to a Turbo celica putting down 250+ whp? wtf

FWD can be fast if done right. the right transmission and tires, as well as driving skills can attain that. plus, its better than RWD if you rely on your car as a daily driver(espeically in inclement weather), although AWD owns.

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how's the blitz s/c for GTS?


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Re: Turbo or supercharge [Re: RyCeCuBe] #179480 May 23, 8:21pm May 23, 8:21pm
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Well If I do decide to get a Turbo kit what brand or kind should I look into getting for my GTS.

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