Previous Thread
Next Thread
New Reply
Print Thread
Rate Thread

#177993 May 13, 5:34am
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Before we get started, let me first say the MAFS are clean, and throttle body is clean, as is the idle valve. New spark plugs, proper gas, closed gas lid.

I filled up my car the last two times, after which the car sputters and stalls for the first mile of driving. It was really low the first time, like 3 bars, so I figured that's why it did this. This time, it was at a 1/4 of a tank, and it did it again.

Could this be from me removing the butterfly valve? Or, is it something else? confused


To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 90
Member
2000 Toyota Celica
Member
2000 Toyota Celica
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 90
did you remove the butterfly valve to install a Intake? if you didnt, and you still have a stock Intake could possibly be the problem. but no to sure. how do you clean the idle valve?

Last edited by veilsideffgt; May 13, 2004 5:38am.

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
the butterfly valve removal is because I don't have a CAI.

I'm getting one for my bday most likely, but I don't see how that could cause a stall out confused


To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.

Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 233
Member
2000 Toyota Celica GT
Member
2000 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 233
i get this problem as well. i have neither a CAI or the butterfly valve removed. I think it has to do with a air bubble in the gastank? just my .02 cents tho. I find that when im going and then come to a stop the RPM's drop below 500 and the car starts to sputter like its gonna stall so i put it in N and give its some gas. seems to fix it for the time being.


[Linked Image]

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
hmm, maybe there is some deposits or something in the tank.

oh well, if it does it again (im going to fill up at 1/2 tank) ill replace the B.fly valve and see if it does it again


To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,371
SHO - NUFF
2003 Toyota Celica GT
SHO - NUFF
2003 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,371
Try some Fuel injector cleaner thumbsup

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
hmm, that's not a bad idea. I did a chevron fuel cleaner back at my last oil change (4K miles) so I don't think it could be the problem...but, it never hurts to try spineyes


To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,899
ThE iRoN mAiDeN
2003 Toyota Celica GT
ThE iRoN mAiDeN
2003 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,899
Mine does this to, I have TRD filter with the butterfly in. Injector cleaner may help. I also do the shift to N give it gas trick.

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 923
Likes: 1
ECelica Staff
2000 Toyota Celica GT
ECelica Staff
2000 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 923
Likes: 1
Diablo try some Chemtool B-12 injector cleaner that's the best stuff on the market.


"They don't make no seatbelt for the mind. So I can't buckle up for this ride!"

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,716
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,716
mine used to do that once in awhile but now it stop, the maf are clean..maybe because i'm not using premium grade fuel, i've been using grade 90 superunleaded with 10%ethanol ever since i got my car..i just figure out two days ago i need to be using premium..<<cost are too deadly at $2.06 being cheapest and $2.11 being highest.. rofl rofl

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 53
Member
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
Member
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 53
yea sound like a octain may have something to do with it ..

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,070
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Specialist
2000 Toyota Celica
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,070
Your fuel pump could be clogged or damaged. They can get damaged easily if the car is ran with less than a quarter of a tank often.

If problems persist, I'd say that it has something to do with the fuel pump itself, or clogged injectors. Hopefully it's the injectors because those can be replaced by you with a certain knowhow.


Aqua Teen Hunger Force...number one in the hood, G

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 98
BAC
Member
2000 Toyota Celica GT
Member
2000 Toyota Celica GT
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 98
what the normal rpm at idle? cause my rpm goes below 1000... i put 89 octane rating everytime...

BAC #178006 May 13, 11:13pm
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983
Senior Member
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 983
I'm not really sure, on my Mitsubishi truck same thing happened, turned out to be a bad alternator confused

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
the problem is that the cars runs great right after. If it was a fuel pump problem or injector problem, wouldn't it happen all the time?

I'm going to try the injector cleaner anyhow, it's less than $10


To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 873
seabass
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
seabass
2000 Toyota Celica GTS
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 873
depends if its warm also i know with my old jetta vr6 it would run retared in the morning casue it wasn't warm yet i knew it wwas the o2 sensor but didn't bother me enough to change it

so yea maybe a o2 sensor ?


hey thats a 20 minute phone call
"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants"
derek: do you know that non dairy cream is flamable
Jennie: ...derek..what did you do

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
weird thing is that when I drove into the gas station on a 1/4 of a tank, car was running great.

filled it up, turned it on and it sputters to to a stop.

after driving home, it was running good again

thumbsdown thumbsdown


To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 371
Member
2003 Toyota Celica
Member
2003 Toyota Celica
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 371
Okay, I've kinda been having that problem with my car too. Sometimes when I start it up and try to go, it kinda sputters at first and then something seems to kick in. It only started happening since I put my CAI on though. idunnoBut its not after I get gas or anything.

So you thought it was the O2 sensor?

Last edited by Heat; May 14, 2004 7:56am.

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
your problem sounds like the MAF, heather.

Bogging at launch is from the dirty thermistor and MAF sensor. Isaac finally posted my new pics in the install guide if you need them.

I'm thinking my problem might be in the tank


To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 371
Member
2003 Toyota Celica
Member
2003 Toyota Celica
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 371
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
your problem sounds like the MAF, heather.

Bogging at launch is from the dirty thermistor and MAF sensor. Isaac finally posted my new pics in the install guide if you need them.

I'm thinking my problem might be in the tank

Ya know, I've been meaning to do that for a while. I think you're right though. I kinda thought if it was a maf problem, it would happen all the time though.


[Linked Image]

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
actually, not really. clean the maf, you'll see what I mean

takes 2 minutes, I did it in the rain once rofl


To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 371
Member
2003 Toyota Celica
Member
2003 Toyota Celica
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 371
Yeah, I know its easy, just haven't gotten around to it.

In the rain. lol


[Linked Image]

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Wheezy Joe
2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,442
well, it rained for like a week here, and I was diagnosing a problem.

it fixed it rofl


To have played and laughed with enthusiasm
and sung with exultation
To know even one life has breathed easier
This is to have succeeded.

Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 1
New Member
New Member
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 1
I'm having the same issue! Any update on what could've been the issue? I drove to the Gas station with about 1/4 tank as well, and when I filled 'er up, It would run for about 5 seconds and then stall and die.

Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 241
Likes: 30
Member
Member
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 241
Likes: 30
I have been driving my 2002 GTS auto with 335K miles, using the cheapest Arco 87 octane fuel for years, never had knocking or hesitation, even when driving under extreme load up steep hill on 4th gear.

Once in a while I would give it half a bottle of Octane booster, but does not seem necessary. Never had knocking at any speed or any sputtering in quick acceleration.

A guy did some calculations, figured out that the 2ZZ engine has to be at sea level with WOT for preignition knocking to happen. Toyota engineers specify 91 Octane fuel but it's only necessary if you do high-performance racing.

Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 241
Likes: 30
Member
Member
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 241
Likes: 30
Sputtering and stalling problems are usually caused by bad air/fuel mixture.

Fuel may be contaminated. Try the water absorbing fluid.

MAF may be clean and tested good , but still can be defective. Swap in a known-good Denso MAF from another Toy or Lexus and check it out.

The fuel/mixture sensor O1S1 may be defective, causing bad mixture.

Vacuum hoses between the airbox and the throttle body may be cracked or leaky.

Airbox and air filter may be incorrectly installed.

Join the conversation - Register Now or Log In to add your comment


Link Copied to Clipboard
Member Spotlight
LoFlyer
LoFlyer
2004 Toyota Celica
Covington,GA

Posts: 96
Joined: May 2004
Random: She's breakin' up, Captain!!
Show All Member Profiles 
Recent Topics
Spyder Headlight LEDs
by Dxnxld - Mar 25, 2024 6:51am
Anyone ever hear this noise?
by CeliacCelica - Mar 21, 2024 10:51am
Clunking sound (not sure where from)
by Juliansky - Mar 20, 2024 3:01am
Does anybody know where i can find a S53 trans rebuild kit?
by MoreRamenNoodles - Mar 19, 2024 8:57pm
Urgent
by SoloXKay - Mar 19, 2024 11:58am
OEM speedometer on aftermarket ecu
by Penaman99 - Mar 5, 2024 11:23am
Brake master cylinder
by Nigel100 - Mar 5, 2024 2:45am
newly purchased 2000 GTS
by CantShift - Feb 27, 2024 9:06pm
Customize Your Toyota Celica Privacy Policy · About · Contact
Privacy Policy · About · Contact
CelicaHobby.com is an independent Toyota Celica enthusiast website. CelicaHobby.com is not sponsored by or affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. in any way. The Toyota and Celica names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.
© CelicaHobby.com, 2001-2024
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0
(Preview build 20230331)