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DiabloGTS May 13, 12:34pm - #177993 

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Weird Stall Outs

Before we get started, let me first say the MAFS are clean, and throttle body is clean, as is the idle valve. New spark plugs, proper gas, closed gas lid.

I filled up my car the last two times, after which the car sputters and stalls for the first mile of driving. It was really low the first time, like 3 bars, so I figured that's why it did this. This time, it was at a 1/4 of a tank, and it did it again.

Could this be from me removing the butterfly valve? Or, is it something else? confused

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veilsideffgt May 13, 12:36pm - #177994 

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did you remove the butterfly valve to install a Intake? if you didnt, and you still have a stock Intake could possibly be the problem. but no to sure. how do you clean the idle valve?
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DiabloGTS May 13, 12:39pm - #177995 

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the butterfly valve removal is because I don't have a CAI.

I'm getting one for my bday most likely, but I don't see how that could cause a stall out confused

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devilinacelica May 13, 12:50pm - #177996 
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i get this problem as well. i have neither a CAI or the butterfly valve removed. I think it has to do with a air bubble in the gastank? just my .02 cents tho. I find that when im going and then come to a stop the RPM's drop below 500 and the car starts to sputter like its gonna stall so i put it in N and give its some gas. seems to fix it for the time being.

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DiabloGTS May 13, 3:49pm - #177997 

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hmm, maybe there is some deposits or something in the tank.

oh well, if it does it again (im going to fill up at 1/2 tank) ill replace the B.fly valve and see if it does it again

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AZZKIKR May 13, 4:24pm - #177998 

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Try some Fuel injector cleaner thumbsup
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DiabloGTS May 13, 4:29pm - #177999 

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hmm, that's not a bad idea. I did a chevron fuel cleaner back at my last oil change (4K miles) so I don't think it could be the problem...but, it never hurts to try spineyes

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Gen7fan May 13, 5:38pm - #178000 
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Mine does this to, I have TRD filter with the butterfly in. Injector cleaner may help. I also do the shift to N give it gas trick.
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CID498 May 13, 6:26pm - #178001 

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Diablo try some Chemtool B-12 injector cleaner that's the best stuff on the market.

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celicafourotwo May 13, 9:58pm - #178002 

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mine used to do that once in awhile but now it stop, the maf are clean..maybe because i'm not using premium grade fuel, i've been using grade 90 superunleaded with 10%ethanol ever since i got my car..i just figure out two days ago i need to be using premium..<<cost are too deadly at $2.06 being cheapest and $2.11 being highest.. rofl rofl

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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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gtsbryan May 13, 11:26pm - #178003 

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yea sound like a octain may have something to do with it ..
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slidr May 14, 1:32am - #178004 

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Your fuel pump could be clogged or damaged. They can get damaged easily if the car is ran with less than a quarter of a tank often.

If problems persist, I'd say that it has something to do with the fuel pump itself, or clogged injectors. Hopefully it's the injectors because those can be replaced by you with a certain knowhow.

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BAC May 14, 6:11am - #178005 

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what the normal rpm at idle? cause my rpm goes below 1000... i put 89 octane rating everytime...
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BReakinDrifTs May 14, 6:13am - #178006 
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I'm not really sure, on my Mitsubishi truck same thing happened, turned out to be a bad alternator confused
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DiabloGTS May 14, 12:36pm - #178007 

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the problem is that the cars runs great right after. If it was a fuel pump problem or injector problem, wouldn't it happen all the time?

I'm going to try the injector cleaner anyhow, it's less than $10

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drkramm May 14, 12:48pm - #178008 
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depends if its warm also i know with my old jetta vr6 it would run retared in the morning casue it wasn't warm yet i knew it wwas the o2 sensor but didn't bother me enough to change it

so yea maybe a o2 sensor ?

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DiabloGTS May 14, 1:19pm - #178009 

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weird thing is that when I drove into the gas station on a 1/4 of a tank, car was running great.

filled it up, turned it on and it sputters to to a stop.

after driving home, it was running good again

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Heat May 14, 2:54pm - #178010 
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Okay, I've kinda been having that problem with my car too. Sometimes when I start it up and try to go, it kinda sputters at first and then something seems to kick in. It only started happening since I put my CAI on though. idunnoBut its not after I get gas or anything.

So you thought it was the O2 sensor?
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DiabloGTS May 14, 2:58pm - #178011 

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your problem sounds like the MAF, heather.

Bogging at launch is from the dirty thermistor and MAF sensor. Isaac finally posted my new pics in the install guide if you need them.

I'm thinking my problem might be in the tank

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Heat May 14, 3:06pm - #178012 
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
your problem sounds like the MAF, heather.

Bogging at launch is from the dirty thermistor and MAF sensor. Isaac finally posted my new pics in the install guide if you need them.

I'm thinking my problem might be in the tank


Ya know, I've been meaning to do that for a while. I think you're right though. I kinda thought if it was a maf problem, it would happen all the time though.

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DiabloGTS May 14, 3:10pm - #178013 

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actually, not really. clean the maf, you'll see what I mean

takes 2 minutes, I did it in the rain once rofl

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Heat May 14, 3:12pm - #178014 
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Yeah, I know its easy, just haven't gotten around to it.

In the rain. lol

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DiabloGTS May 14, 3:21pm - #178015 

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well, it rained for like a week here, and I was diagnosing a problem.

it fixed it rofl

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