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Weird Stall Outs #177993 May 13, 4:34am May 13, 4:34am
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Before we get started, let me first say the MAFS are clean, and throttle body is clean, as is the idle valve. New spark plugs, proper gas, closed gas lid.

I filled up my car the last two times, after which the car sputters and stalls for the first mile of driving. It was really low the first time, like 3 bars, so I figured that's why it did this. This time, it was at a 1/4 of a tank, and it did it again.

Could this be from me removing the butterfly valve? Or, is it something else? confused


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: DiabloGTS] #177994 May 13, 4:36am May 13, 4:36am
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did you remove the butterfly valve to install a Intake? if you didnt, and you still have a stock Intake could possibly be the problem. but no to sure. how do you clean the idle valve?

Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: veilsideffgt] #177995 May 13, 4:39am May 13, 4:39am
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the butterfly valve removal is because I don't have a CAI.

I'm getting one for my bday most likely, but I don't see how that could cause a stall out confused


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: DiabloGTS] #177996 May 13, 4:50am May 13, 4:50am
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i get this problem as well. i have neither a CAI or the butterfly valve removed. I think it has to do with a air bubble in the gastank? just my .02 cents tho. I find that when im going and then come to a stop the RPM's drop below 500 and the car starts to sputter like its gonna stall so i put it in N and give its some gas. seems to fix it for the time being.


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: devilinacelica] #177997 May 13, 7:49am May 13, 7:49am
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hmm, maybe there is some deposits or something in the tank.

oh well, if it does it again (im going to fill up at 1/2 tank) ill replace the B.fly valve and see if it does it again


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: DiabloGTS] #177998 May 13, 8:24am May 13, 8:24am
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Try some Fuel injector cleaner thumbsup

Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: AZZKIKR] #177999 May 13, 8:29am May 13, 8:29am
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hmm, that's not a bad idea. I did a chevron fuel cleaner back at my last oil change (4K miles) so I don't think it could be the problem...but, it never hurts to try spineyes


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: DiabloGTS] #178000 May 13, 9:38am May 13, 9:38am
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Mine does this to, I have TRD filter with the butterfly in. Injector cleaner may help. I also do the shift to N give it gas trick.

Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: Gen7fan] #178001 May 13, 10:26am May 13, 10:26am
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Diablo try some Chemtool B-12 injector cleaner that's the best stuff on the market.


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: CID498] #178002 May 13, 1:58pm May 13, 1:58pm
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mine used to do that once in awhile but now it stop, the maf are clean..maybe because i'm not using premium grade fuel, i've been using grade 90 superunleaded with 10%ethanol ever since i got my car..i just figure out two days ago i need to be using premium..<<cost are too deadly at $2.06 being cheapest and $2.11 being highest.. rofl rofl


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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: celicafourotwo] #178003 May 13, 3:26pm May 13, 3:26pm
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yea sound like a octain may have something to do with it ..

Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: gtsbryan] #178004 May 13, 5:32pm May 13, 5:32pm
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Your fuel pump could be clogged or damaged. They can get damaged easily if the car is ran with less than a quarter of a tank often.

If problems persist, I'd say that it has something to do with the fuel pump itself, or clogged injectors. Hopefully it's the injectors because those can be replaced by you with a certain knowhow.


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: slidr] #178005 May 13, 10:11pm May 13, 10:11pm
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what the normal rpm at idle? cause my rpm goes below 1000... i put 89 octane rating everytime...

Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: BAC] #178006 May 13, 10:13pm May 13, 10:13pm
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I'm not really sure, on my Mitsubishi truck same thing happened, turned out to be a bad alternator confused

Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: BReakinDrifTs] #178007 May 14, 4:36am May 14, 4:36am
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the problem is that the cars runs great right after. If it was a fuel pump problem or injector problem, wouldn't it happen all the time?

I'm going to try the injector cleaner anyhow, it's less than $10


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: DiabloGTS] #178008 May 14, 4:48am May 14, 4:48am
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depends if its warm also i know with my old jetta vr6 it would run retared in the morning casue it wasn't warm yet i knew it wwas the o2 sensor but didn't bother me enough to change it

so yea maybe a o2 sensor ?


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: drkramm] #178009 May 14, 5:19am May 14, 5:19am
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weird thing is that when I drove into the gas station on a 1/4 of a tank, car was running great.

filled it up, turned it on and it sputters to to a stop.

after driving home, it was running good again

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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: DiabloGTS] #178010 May 14, 6:54am May 14, 6:54am
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Okay, I've kinda been having that problem with my car too. Sometimes when I start it up and try to go, it kinda sputters at first and then something seems to kick in. It only started happening since I put my CAI on though. idunnoBut its not after I get gas or anything.

So you thought it was the O2 sensor?

Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: Heat] #178011 May 14, 6:58am May 14, 6:58am
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your problem sounds like the MAF, heather.

Bogging at launch is from the dirty thermistor and MAF sensor. Isaac finally posted my new pics in the install guide if you need them.

I'm thinking my problem might be in the tank


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: DiabloGTS] #178012 May 14, 7:06am May 14, 7:06am
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
your problem sounds like the MAF, heather.

Bogging at launch is from the dirty thermistor and MAF sensor. Isaac finally posted my new pics in the install guide if you need them.

I'm thinking my problem might be in the tank


Ya know, I've been meaning to do that for a while. I think you're right though. I kinda thought if it was a maf problem, it would happen all the time though.


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: Heat] #178013 May 14, 7:10am May 14, 7:10am
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actually, not really. clean the maf, you'll see what I mean

takes 2 minutes, I did it in the rain once rofl


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: DiabloGTS] #178014 May 14, 7:12am May 14, 7:12am
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Yeah, I know its easy, just haven't gotten around to it.

In the rain. lol


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Re: Weird Stall Outs [Re: Heat] #178015 May 14, 7:21am May 14, 7:21am
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well, it rained for like a week here, and I was diagnosing a problem.

it fixed it rofl


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