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GT vs. GTS #177290 May 12, 10:10am May 12, 10:10am
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GT vs. GTS
What exactly is the difference in the GT and GTS. Besides of coarse the HP @ RPM's, the leather seats, and the 6-speed vs 5-speed manual.
Is the GTS supposed to be faster off the line than the GT? because I've raced a few GTS's and several times as far as i knew, they were stock, and so was I. I beat them everytime. Is it possibly because they were just horrible drivers? I have a manual and they all did too, i don't see why i should have spent thousands more just to have a red "GTS" emblem on the back of my celica. My GT rides just fine, apparently that 180 HP Vs. My 140HP isnt doing anything. I get them off the line every time. So are you paying for a red emblem, leather seats, and 40 HP (that don't do anything) ?? whats the big deal about GTS's?

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Originally Posted by INVCelica
What exactly is the difference in the GT and GTS. Besides of coarse the HP @ RPM's, the leather seats, and the 6-speed vs 5-speed manual.
Is the GTS supposed to be faster off the line than the GT? because I've raced a few GTS's and several times as far as i knew, they were stock, and so was I. I beat them everytime. Is it possibly because they were just horrible drivers? I have a manual and they all did too, i don't see why i should have spent thousands more just to have a red "GTS" emblem on the back of my celica. My GT rides just fine, apparently that 180 HP Vs. My 140HP isnt doing anything. I get them off the line every time. So are you paying for a red emblem, leather seats, and 40 HP (that don't do anything) ?? whats the big deal about GTS's?


you were racing horrible drivers or guys with auto GTS'. a manual GT vs a manual GTS with equal drivers is no contest...


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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: ct] #177292 May 12, 10:51am May 12, 10:51am
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yea with equal drivers though, GTS is a hard car to drive though and the GT is not, the GTS also comes with rear disc breaks stock, and LIFT and yes the extra 40hp does do a lot


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There is no question that the GTS is WAY faster. Times for stock GTS's break into the mid-high 14's. Stock times for the GT are usually 16.xx


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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: RevMonster] #177294 May 12, 11:00am May 12, 11:00am
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well lucky who is an amazing driver ran a 14.7 stock or something i haven't seen any better times than that from stock really, GT is capable of mid to high 15s


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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: My Sixth Gear] #177295 May 12, 11:06am May 12, 11:06am
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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: My Sixth Gear] #177296 May 12, 11:07am May 12, 11:07am
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when the GTS hit the lift, you're done...

Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: ragingpaseo] #177297 May 12, 11:57am May 12, 11:57am
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Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
when the GTS hit the lift, you're done...


Should even be before that... if both cars are manual, the GTS should pwn the launch. grin


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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: RevMonster] #177298 May 12, 12:27pm May 12, 12:27pm
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gts is offcourse faster you were probably racing some amateurs smile rofl


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were they even racing at all??? wtf

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Man INVCelica up to wat speed do you race them, because im known for shifting really fast beween all the people i hang out with and i can only beat a GTS till around 30 or 40 mph, thats were they even out with me and after that i am just left behind! No way a stock GT would ever beat a stock GTS unless that person does not know how to shift at all!

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Originally Posted by RevMonster
Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
when the GTS hit the lift, you're done...


Should even be before that... if both cars are manual, the GTS should pwn the launch. grin
how so??? the gt actually has a little bit more torque than the gts. by the way as soon as i hit 3500 rpm in my gt.. all you will see are my taillights grin


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The 1ZZ was made for more torque and lower end power, while the 2ZZ is a high revving engine that makes power up on top. I havent raced a GTS b4 (i dont drag a lot) but the GT should pull on the GTS at the line.. after that its all LIFT.

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Originally Posted by fastceli2001
Originally Posted by RevMonster
Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
when the GTS hit the lift, you're done...


Should even be before that... if both cars are manual, the GTS should pwn the launch. grin
how so??? the gt actually has a little bit more torque than the gts. by the way as soon as i hit 3500 rpm in my gt.. all you will see are my taillights grin


The GTS should pwn the launch, because most people launch their GTS from above 6000 RPM... meaning that they are in lift on the launch


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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: ragingpaseo] #177305 May 12, 7:33pm May 12, 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
were they even racing at all??? wtf
rofl rofl


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let all go trade in our gts and get a gt..since it's faster and cheaper wtf rofl rofl


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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: RevMonster] #177307 May 12, 8:37pm May 12, 8:37pm
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Originally Posted by RevMonster
Originally Posted by fastceli2001
Originally Posted by RevMonster
Originally Posted by ragingpaseo
when the GTS hit the lift, you're done...


Should even be before that... if both cars are manual, the GTS should pwn the launch. grin
how so??? the gt actually has a little bit more torque than the gts. by the way as soon as i hit 3500 rpm in my gt.. all you will see are my taillights grin


The GTS should pwn the launch, because most people launch their GTS from above 6000 RPM... meaning that they are in lift on the launch



Damn bro, 6,000 rpm launch on a stock clutch would wear it out fast, i thought most people launched around 3,500 rpms or 4,000. A GTS would not own a launch (stock), if the GTS driver is good, then the cars would probably be dead even.

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^^^ If they are launching at 3500 RPM, that's why they aren't getting better times spineyes

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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: RevMonster] #177309 May 12, 8:46pm May 12, 8:46pm
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BTW, after you look at that... go look at the slips that everyone posts. The 60' is better with the GTS if the person has any idea what they are doing.

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All of you that are thinking that a GT would take a GTS on a launch...hmmmm.

You guys act like the GT is a torque monster or something. Let's not forget that the GTS has a higher compression ratio than the GT, meaning that it doesn't only create more horsepower when it hits lift, but rather throughout the whole powerband.

The gearing is another thing to consider.


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hasnt this been posted more then like 20 times!!!!

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Originally Posted by kevin
let all go trade in our gts and get a gt..since it's faster and cheaper wtf rofl rofl

no way! rofl i didn't pay extra cash for a GTS so i can trade it back, lose the money, & get less hp... grin

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Originally Posted by RevMonster
BTW, after you look at that... go look at the slips that everyone posts. The 60' is better with the GTS if the person has any idea what they are doing.

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Aight man, im just saying that a stock clutch would take a damn beating if you did that a lot, i belive you can launch at high rpms if you have a clutch that can take it the punishment.

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by INVCelica
What exactly is the difference in the GT and GTS. Besides of coarse the HP @ RPM's, the leather seats, and the 6-speed vs 5-speed manual.
Is the GTS supposed to be faster off the line than the GT? because I've raced a few GTS's and several times as far as i knew, they were stock, and so was I. I beat them everytime. Is it possibly because they were just horrible drivers? I have a manual and they all did too, i don't see why i should have spent thousands more just to have a red "GTS" emblem on the back of my celica. My GT rides just fine, apparently that 180 HP Vs. My 140HP isnt doing anything. I get them off the line every time. So are you paying for a red emblem, leather seats, and 40 HP (that don't do anything) ?? whats the big deal about GTS's?


you were racing horrible drivers or guys with auto GTS'. a manual GT vs a manual GTS with equal drivers is no contest...
^^^ Yeah, they Short Shifted... tongue GTS can take one those 240HP Mustangs.. mine did! wink

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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: RevMonster] #177316 May 13, 7:12am May 13, 7:12am
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I agree a 6000 rpm launch on a stock clutch is still suicide...i have an AUTO GTS...and its stomped every GT i have raced...HOWEVER i do NOW have broke lift bolts and its a lot closer...so they may have broken lift bolts. This would defenintly make a lot closer race seeing how in my case i have valve hop at 7600 rpm now, so i am shifting (manually) at about 7400 rpm.

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a mustang? i beat a mustang in my GT, i also smoked a camaro... I honestly don't see the difference in my GT and some of those GTS maybe one of you should let me borrow your GTS.
My car's engine is all stock, all i have is my muffler...and that gives me what...max of 7HP? 147 HP? vs those base model stangs n camaros, i dont see where HP does anything in these cases. are those cars just a lot heavier?
what if i told you i smoked a vette stingray grin...well i didnt...i got killed... cry

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Okay you didn't beat a Mustang GT and Camaro in your GT. If you did, they didn't know they were racing you. rofl


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Originally Posted by INVCelica

My car's engine is all stock, all i have is my muffler...and that gives me what...max of 7HP? 147 HP?


a GT doesn't get that much hp gain from a muffler/exhaust alone...a GTS doesn't even get those numbers on that kind of mod.


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Originally Posted by RevMonster
Okay you didn't beat a Mustang GT and Camaro in your GT. If you did, they didn't know they were racing you. rofl
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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: Lethalchem] #177321 May 13, 10:44am May 13, 10:44am
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it would be very difficult for a modded GTS to beat a stock mustang GT


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Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
it would be very difficult for a modded GTS to beat a stock mustang GT


But remember, the GT Celica is apparently faster than the GTS rofl rofl rofl


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Re: GT vs. GTS [Re: INVCelica] #177324 May 13, 10:49am May 13, 10:49am
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Originally Posted by INVCelica

My car's engine is all stock, all i have is my muffler...and that gives me what...max of 7HP? 147 HP?

hey new guy, i'll give you 1hp for that muffler, ok, 2hp because i'm nice...

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I have 11:1 internals in my GT 5 speed, and can own auto GTS's, but the 6 speed is a DAMN beast!! I've never beaten one...Lift makes a HUGE difference, aside form the 6 speed close ratio gearing...the only chance you might have to keep up with a GTS is to get some wild cams put in your GT...I'm eyeballing the new catcams cams (serious duration), with a standalone management system (greddy or Apexi PFC) I know it will make a pretty noticeable difference, but I still don't think I'll beat a GTS regularly, if at all, and I know damn good and well that I wouldn't be able to contend with a GTS stock to stock...that's just not intelligent rice

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^ very true, man new guy you probably beat V6 Mustang or V6 Camaro, because if you say the Mustang was a GT you are clearly talking out of ur behind! I can beat V6 Mustangs an Camaros but dont come close to a Stang GT or Z28. Do you have a muffler or a axle-back????

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