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DarkMatter May 5, 11:39am - #171951 

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Apexi PFC and 04 GTS

so, the PFC won't work with an 03 or 04 because of the drive by wire... is there any way to replace this with a throttle cable? what work would be necessary in order for the PFC to work on an 03/04?
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Lucky_317 May 5, 4:36pm - #171952 

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for the amount of time/money you would spend you could throw in a couple more $$ and buy a Turbo kit from SF wink

it can be done but it's a lengthy process and quite pricey from what i've been told.

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Speed4TheNeed May 5, 4:38pm - #171953 

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^^ so you can't use the xs Turbo with an '03 or '04 then? that Turbo comes with the pfc.
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Illusive May 5, 4:52pm - #171954 
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
^^ so you can't use the xs Turbo with an '03 or '04 then? that Turbo comes with the pfc.


you would be correct.

staffords Turbo set up is off a piggy back and he has on on a 03 gts as we speak.

xs's kit wont work on 03 +

power fc just doesn't have the right connections (or software) to work with dbw.

to answer your question you would need

new throttle body, throttle cable, new wiring harness, new pedal assembly, and all other related bolts & accessories.

like lucky said too much money for the pfc your better off going Turbo.

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DarkMatter May 6, 9:06am - #171955 

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i do plan on going Turbo... that's just the thing
turbo = 250whp
i probably will end up paying the extra money for the old throttle setup
pfc = boost control, fuel cutoff control, and what i'm really going to be after when i get that Turbo- lift control
plus another 30whp...

i know it's kinda asking a lot, but how much would each of these cost? just off the top of anyones head.. when the time comes, i'll be doing the shopping

new throttle body =
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new wiring harness =
new pedal assembly =
all other related bolts & accessories =
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Lucky_317 May 6, 5:26pm - #171956 

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call youre local dealer wink or find a thrashed gts at a junkyard and try to get as many parts as you can.

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Illusive May 6, 7:22pm - #171957 
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Originally Posted by DarkMatter
i do plan on going Turbo... that's just the thing
turbo = 250whp
i probably will end up paying the extra money for the old throttle setup
pfc = boost control, fuel cutoff control, and what i'm really going to be after when i get that Turbo- lift control
plus another 30whp...

i know it's kinda asking a lot, but how much would each of these cost? just off the top of anyones head.. when the time comes, i'll be doing the shopping

new throttle body =
throttle cable =
new wiring harness =
new pedal assembly =
all other related bolts & accessories =


i haven't seen any f/i cars that could lower lift point more tha 5800 rpms and still make power.

Most f/i celicas have a somewhat linear power curve anyways.

so theres really no need to control lift, especially when you have 180wtq @ 4500 rpms smile

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