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speed_celica May 3, 6:58am - #170441 

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Removing AC on GTS?

Has anyone tried removing their AC on a GTS. I'm thinking about doing this mod (I live in Canada, since i never need AC, I'm thinking it'll help with Performance) but I was told it's really hard to find an accessory belt that will fit since every GTS comes with AC from factory. Has anyone tried this? Would a GT belt without AC Fit a GTS without AC??.. please help!
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tru_Asiatik_Pride May 3, 7:12am - #170442 

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just lose 5 pounds bro rofl ... j/k
seriusly though iam not be accurate with thw weight but i think thats all the weight you'll take off from the a/c. the a/c does not affect Performance unless its on thumbsup
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v3n0m May 3, 7:17am - #170443 

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^ rofl

5lbs is nothing, you won't see a difference. It's not worth the trouble.
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Parabol May 3, 7:23am - #170444 
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i think its more around 40 lbs??? maybe
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speed_celica May 3, 7:44am - #170445 

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well to be exact, you gain more Performance than just the weight of the AC because you'll also remove a pulley (the AC motor) that the crank will have to spin... it's the same effect as getting an aftermarket pulley to reduce the amount of weight the crank has to spin... but better because you're actually eliminating 1 pulley instead of making it lighter.
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RevMonster May 3, 7:53am - #170446 

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I say that you go get the blow-torch and do it. thumbsup

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tru_Asiatik_Pride May 3, 7:58am - #170447 

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Originally Posted by speed_celica
well to be exact, you gain more Performance than just the weight of the AC because you'll also remove a pulley (the AC motor) that the crank will have to spin... it's the same effect as getting an aftermarket pulley to reduce the amount of weight the crank has to spin... but better because you're actually eliminating 1 pulley instead of making it lighter.

as i mentioned above it does not move unless you turn it on wink
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Stephen May 3, 8:00am - #170448 
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Yeh, we don't need A/C for long in Cananda but it's nice to have it for the 5 days it's hot enough to use it rolleyes
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EuRoBoYGT May 3, 8:01am - #170449 

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yeah but he does loss about 40 lbs or something like that

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spaztikid May 3, 8:03am - #170450 
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it will yeild Performance because of the elimination of the parasitic lag caused by the ac condenser.

if you can find what size belt you need post it up.
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paperheart May 4, 12:50am - #170451 
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You might not need AC for cooling purposes, but you need AC to defog your windows. And when it's cold, your windows fog like a bitch, don't they?

Keep that in mind.

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slidr May 4, 12:59am - #170452 

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Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik_Pride
Originally Posted by speed_celica
well to be exact, you gain more Performance than just the weight of the AC because you'll also remove a pulley (the AC motor) that the crank will have to spin... it's the same effect as getting an aftermarket pulley to reduce the amount of weight the crank has to spin... but better because you're actually eliminating 1 pulley instead of making it lighter.

as i mentioned above it does not move unless you turn it on wink
Um, I don't think so.

The AC Condenser pulley runs on the serpentine belt, so it runs all the time, it just has to run harder when it's turned on. It's the pulley directly under the alternator.

If you want to remove it to save weight, then go for it.

Otherwise, you can just buy a smaller belt and bypass the pulley all together. It's been done before.

And yeah, it's more like 45 pounds, not 5.

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tru_Asiatik_Pride May 4, 2:44am - #170453 

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Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik_Pride
Originally Posted by speed_celica
well to be exact, you gain more Performance than just the weight of the AC because you'll also remove a pulley (the AC motor) that the crank will have to spin... it's the same effect as getting an aftermarket pulley to reduce the amount of weight the crank has to spin... but better because you're actually eliminating 1 pulley instead of making it lighter.

as i mentioned above it does not move unless you turn it on wink
Um, I don't think so.

The AC Condenser pulley runs on the serpentine belt, so it runs all the time, it just has to run harder when it's turned on. It's the pulley directly under the alternator.

If you want to remove it to save weight, then go for it.

Otherwise, you can just buy a smaller belt and bypass the pulley all together. It's been done before.

And yeah, it's more like 45 pounds, not 5.

oopss sorry my bad i was just trying to make a point that there is really no Performance advantage to it...maybe a little but definetly not worth the time and money to take off thumbsup
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trdcelica13 May 4, 2:50am - #170454 
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i've bypassed mine on a gt, i think it was something like 14 inches shorter. If you go to a auto store, the have the measurement for the belt for your car without an ac. As for Performance, there really isn't much at all of a gain that i noticed, i just took it off because i broke my ac circuit board and didn't want to replace it, never use it in the first place, defroster still works so its fine for me.

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slidr May 4, 3:38am - #170455 

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Originally Posted by trdcelica13
i've bypassed mine on a gt, i think it was something like 14 inches shorter. If you go to a auto store, the have the measurement for the belt for your car without an ac. As for Performance, there really isn't much at all of a gain that i noticed, i just took it off because i broke my ac circuit board and didn't want to replace it, never use it in the first place, defroster still works so its fine for me.
There's gotta be a gain in Performance there. By bypassing the AC pulley, you are relieving the motor of 4 pounds to pull.

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vondutchguy May 4, 4:33am - #170456 

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i think ac needs heat to work anyway, if its too cold outside they dont work.
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MxReb0 May 4, 4:37am - #170457 

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It's very heavy and easy to remove. You might try and get all of that ducting out.

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Rexy13 May 4, 6:20am - #170458 
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i thought it was 40+ pounds with all the duct work and everything
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speed_celica May 5, 4:02pm - #170459 

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Would the belts for the GT be the same as the GTS?
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Illusive May 5, 7:22pm - #170460 
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theres a dyno on n c org of a member who bypassed it via a shorter belt and gained about 4whp.

it does make power, and removing the entire set up would save rediculous amounts of weight, the condensor, pump lines and hoses would be pretty hefty.

the down side is all that weigtht is off the front wheels and on a fwd vehicle you want most of the weight over the front wheels for drag racing launches, or traction will suffer.

if your planning on autoXing, then its better to change the weight bias as the front is usually heavier than the rear of fwd cars.

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there are better things to remove to lose more weight and not look luxury in your car thumbsup
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00GTShope May 5, 11:23pm - #170462 

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I use my AC fairly often in Canada. I guess it depends where you guys live but it gets really humid here and AC really feels nice. I wouldn't buy a car without it. thumbsup
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slidr May 6, 1:22am - #170463 

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Originally Posted by speed_celica
Would the belts for the GT be the same as the GTS?

No, they are different.

That's why the AEM Tru Power Pulley has two different types for the Celica. One for the GT, and one for the GTS.

The pulleys are both the same, but the belts are different.

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Originally Posted by 00GTShope
I use my AC fairly often in Canada. I guess it depends where you guys live but it gets really humid here and AC really feels nice. I wouldn't buy a car without it. thumbsup
werd, if you live in alaska, screw the AC, but why would you buy a celica up there anyway, to snowy spineyes
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trdcelica13 May 6, 2:18am - #170465 
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Originally Posted by Illusive
theres a dyno on n c org of a member who bypassed it via a shorter belt and gained about 4whp.

Damn, guess i wasn't really paying attention, thats a decent gain.

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