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Comparing Celica With Other Cars? #170354 May 2, 11:41pm May 2, 11:41pm
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Comparing Celica With Other Cars?
I am going from a 1997 automatic Honda Prelude, to a new car. Looking to spend roughly $12K on my new car. Going to go with a 5-speed this time around. Trying to decide on one of the following four:

'02 Senta Spec-V = 2750 lbs., 175 HP, 180 lbs. torque
'00 Celica GTS = 2500 lbs., 180 HP, 133 lbs. torque
'03 Tiburon GT = 3050 lbs., 170 HP, 181 lbs. torque
'00 Eclipse GT = 3050 lbs., 200 HP, 205 lbs. torque

Any reason that I should choose a Celica over the rest?

Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: MonStarr] #170355 May 2, 11:43pm May 2, 11:43pm
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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: NorwayGT] #170356 May 3, 12:00am May 3, 12:00am
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The Celica is certainly the best handling of those cars. It's also the best in quality, and should be the quickest. The only car that is even close in speed is the Sentra... which is just a plain old sedan.

The Celi is just the best rounded of the group. If I had to offer my second choice though, I'd say the Eclipse. thumbsup


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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: RevMonster] #170357 May 3, 12:01am May 3, 12:01am
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By the way... if you are considering the Sentra, you might also want to look at the Mazdaspeed Protege. It's a 170 HP Turbo, but also has amazing handling and comes with many extras... including Racing Hart wheels and full Kenwood stereo and sub setup.


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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: RevMonster] #170358 May 3, 1:00am May 3, 1:00am
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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: spaztikid] #170359 May 3, 1:20am May 3, 1:20am
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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: EuRoBoYGT] #170360 May 3, 1:36am May 3, 1:36am
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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: v3n0m] #170361 May 3, 3:44am May 3, 3:44am
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posting this kind of a question on a celica website, the answers gonna be obvious here. celica, hands down

Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: SilverGT] #170362 May 3, 6:40am May 3, 6:40am
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Originally Posted by SilverGT
posting this kind of a question on a celica website, the answers gonna be obvious here. celica, hands down

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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: marajade] #170363 May 3, 6:57am May 3, 6:57am
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Yes, celica for many reasons. Toyota Quality, celica looks, celica handling, celica power (though it isnt the fastest car in the world, its faster than what you mentioned. thumbsup

Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: LostAngel] #170364 May 3, 7:41am May 3, 7:41am
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Yes, celica for many reasons. Toyota Quality, celica looks, celica handling, celica power (though it isnt the fastest car in the world, its faster than what you mentioned. thumbsup


Oh comon! The celica is faster than anything! ...At least mine is.

Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: LostAngel] #170365 May 3, 7:41am May 3, 7:41am
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Celcia GTS hands down, and not just because I'm a celica fan. smile

1.) My Celcia GT could take on a Tiburon GT and well, that's just sad.

2.)The Eclipse has 200 hp, the GTS has 180 (163 +/- whp) and the GTS can still take the Exclipse, on the street and own it in show.

3.) Sentra, SELF EXPLANATORY. (Compared to these cars anyway)

4.) Celica's looks.

5.) Celica's reliability factor.

6.) Celica's weight (2525lbs.), sound, interior etc. etc. etc. wink

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Okay guys, lots of great responses, appreciate it.

Somethings I am noticing, first of all is that it's a 6-speed, that's absolutely awesome. That really makes me want it even more. I can only afford a used '00 GTS though, and I am not even sure about that.

In terms of looks alone its a tough call between the Celica and the '03 Tiburons. Even though it is Hyundai they really stepped up with in the looks department with the new Tibs.

Okay, with a Celica though, how are the noises inside the cabin? Shocks? Squeaks? Suspension noises (with aftermarket suspension)?

What kind of 1/4 mile times are we talking with bolt-ons? Thanks guys. smile

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Originally Posted by MonStarr
Okay guys, lots of great responses, appreciate it.

Somethings I am noticing, first of all is that it's a 6-speed, that's absolutely awesome. That really makes me want it even more. I can only afford a used '00 GTS though, and I am not even sure about that.

In terms of looks alone its a tough call between the Celica and the '03 Tiburons. Even though it is Hyundai they really stepped up with in the looks department with the new Tibs.

Okay, with a Celica though, how are the noises inside the cabin? Shocks? Squeaks? Suspension noises (with aftermarket suspension)?

What kind of 1/4 mile times are we talking with bolt-ons? Thanks guys. smile

The tiburons have a sorta cool look...but hyundai has poor quality...

As for noises, there are some noises but none that will drive you nuts. 1/4 mile wise, if you can land lift on each shift, I wouldnt doubt around 14.9 or so stock. Thats if you do not have a '02. That year has the rev limiter, that makes it impossible to land lift easy.

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I agree that the Tiburon's especiall modded Tiburons, can really look insane. I know its still a Hyundai and kind of screams cheap, though.

Okay I am a bit confused, what is this land lift everyone is talking about? Sorry, new to Celicas.

What can you do for a GTS to help out with torque? I am coming from a Prelude that lacked in torque as well (156 lbs.).

Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: MonStarr] #170369 May 3, 8:38am May 3, 8:38am
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Tiburon is way over priced for the quality you get. Should be $15,999 FULLY loaded GT V6 6speed (WHY is that an option? ghey)

Celica is the best in that group, fastest, best handling, best looking.

Also most expensive frown


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Lift is a celica gts exclusive. When the celica hits a certain rpm (around 6000 or so). The cams switch to a more aggressive set, creating more power (40 more horses) by letting your engine breath deeper.

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http://www.toyota-europe.com/technology/engines/vvtl_i.html
That is nice animation on how lift works for the Celica GTS (VVTL-i)

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Wow, that's crazy! I am waiting to hear back from a dealer on an '01 silver Celica GTS.

I am not at all crazy about silver though.

Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: MonStarr] #170373 May 3, 9:26am May 3, 9:26am
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LOL.

Does anyone have any links to some nicely clean modded silver Celica's? And also what is a better bet, a silver (color I am not crazy about) GTS or a black (color I love) GT?

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Also, how much worse is the GT vs. the GTS. Because I just received word that I can get approved for a black 2003 GT.

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I am really starting to realize, that a GTS is pretty much a completely different car than a GT, DAMNIT! LOL.

I really don't like silver that much though... frown

I guess I can live with it.

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gt or gts doesnt matter... get a celica nigga. those other cars you listed doesnt compare bro

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GT is about a second slower...no rear discs...lower red line...no lift (which everyone loves).

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Originally Posted by MonStarr
I am really starting to realize, that a GTS is pretty much a completely different car than a GT, DAMNIT! LOL.

I really don't like silver that much though... frown

I guess I can live with it.

Just get whatever you want...be happy with it 100%. thumbsup

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I am trying HARD for a GTS. Called a few more places.

I am coming from a Prelude, so I want to feel like I am driving a car just as fast or faster. A GT really isn't even an option. I mean what is the stock 1/4 mile time for a GT? 16.0 or something?

I had an automatic Prelude though. frown

I think going from an automatic to a 6-speed is a great idea. wink

I am about 99% sure on a Celica.

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ya, but the GT isnt bad. It has a smoother powerband. If you chose celica, your still a winner! wave

Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: LostAngel] #170383 May 3, 10:58am May 3, 10:58am
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^^ agreed,, and to think I almost had a Civic puke

Celica has a lot going for it but most of all Toyota Longevity thumbsup


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Yeah I agree. I love Celicas. About the Celica GT, however, what kind of 1/4 mile time are we talking with bolt-ons?

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I can get a black '03 GT like very very soon. I can't decide if I should hold off and try and find a used GTS?

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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: MonStarr] #170387 May 3, 12:46pm May 3, 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by MonStarr
I can get a black '03 GT like very very soon. I can't decide if I should hold off and try and find a used GTS?


I'd take a new GT over a used GTS, if both are sticks. I just don't like used cars. You never know who had them.


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I am coming from a Prelude, so I want to feel like I am driving a car just as fast or faster. A GT really isn't even an option. I mean what is the stock 1/4 mile time for a GT? 16.0 or something?

A 5 speed GT should be faster than a prelude AUTOMATIC,plus if you ever want to Turbo, people prefer that GT pver the GTS.
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Originally Posted by EuRoBoYGT
celica has everything over those cars handeling Performance and style

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If you're thinking about an Eclipse and don't mind driving a used car, why don't you look for a GSX or GST? They are way faster than the new eclipses.


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I am almost 100% sure that I am going to be getting a brand new '03 black Celica GT. So stay tuned. Somethings that I am going to doing immediately.

- debadging the "Toyota" and "GT" from the rear, leaving just the Toyota emblem
- black tint
- clearing out the orange in the headlights, black housing the headlights

Obvious things in the future:

- slam that b*tch
- some kind of kit, not too aggressive
- HID's
- 18's, most likely ADR GTSports
- swap in some leather seats

Etc. etc.

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too bad you live in deleware, my sisters friend is selling a brand new Z4 for 12k... no miles... hes also got a benz... so i guess its chomp change...

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too bad you live in deleware, my sisters friend is selling a brand new Z4 for 12k... no miles... hes also got a benz... so i guess its chomp change...


DUDE I'll buy it.

Tell me his info, I'll get it out here.


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There is absolutely no competition between the Celica and all those other car.

The Celica GTS is very light and extremely agile, in terms of Performance in 0-62mph and quarter mile, the Celica beats all those other cars out pretty badly. Not to mention the GTS has a pretty "hi-tech" engine (VVTL-I, 2zz-ge, also used in the new Lotus Elise) for what it is, it is actually better than the over-glorified VTEC and is more like (or better some would think) than the I-VTEC.

Those other cars are just nothing to the GTS.. but I guess it depends on what you like, what your use for the car is and you should test drive them all, but when it comes to real Performance then the Celica GTS is by far superior.

Edit: if that doesn't prove it, then take a look at the user Lucky on this board and with the few mods he has, he can run mid 13's (now imagine what he could potentially run with some more common mods and then he could even have a better set-up then that) and this...

"In order to get some track time, we opted to join in on a P.O.C. (Porsche owners club) track day at Willow Springs "Streets of Willow". John Hotchkis has raced Porsche 962's for years so he feels right at home on the track. At first we got some strange looks and giggles from the Porsche owners, until we proved what the car would do on the track. What our GTS is lacking in HP, it made up for in cornering ability. This just proves that a properly set up Celica, can even overtake faster, more exotic vehicles, and earn a respectable reputation on the track."

Plus, it has been very well known for the GTS to take out EVO's on the track too.. stock for stock I believe. Pretty fucking impressive.


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ill check with my sister, shes being bitchy (i bet pms) so she right now aint gonna talk to him...

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I pretty much changed my mind. I was completely set on a brand new '03 black Celica GT.

Now I am rethinking and I think I would be better off with an '00-'01 GTS. I just hope that I can find one in black, etc.

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get a celi GTS

those other cars are...u know, dumb

sentra - ugly...
tiburon - slow, troublesome, heavy...
eclipes - a lot of problems...mostly from the engine, heavy...


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Okay but what about this? Brand new Celica GT vs. used (few years old) Celica GTS?

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Originally Posted by MonStarr
Okay but what about this? Brand new Celica GT vs. used (few years old) Celica GTS?

ide get the used GTS


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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: NorwayGT] #170400 May 3, 7:06pm May 3, 7:06pm
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GTS if you are getting a manual
GT is you are considering auto...


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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: Elec-FuYu] #170401 May 3, 7:21pm May 3, 7:21pm
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I am without a doubt getting a manual. This is no questions asked.

So I am better off with a used GTS?

Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: MonStarr] #170402 May 3, 7:24pm May 3, 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by MonStarr
I am without a doubt getting a manual. This is no questions asked.

So I am better off with a used GTS?


Yes, definitely!!!


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Re: Comparing Celica With Other Cars? [Re: eLiTeViEtBoI] #170403 May 3, 9:10pm May 3, 9:10pm
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The thing about getting a older GTS is some say the '02 models have a lower rev limiter so you can't shift at or past redline. Also, in later '02 they changed the shift gates (I personally think the new shift gate is much better, but some disagree.) Also, some '02 GTS had a fuel tank "problem" where when filling up, the gas could sometimes overflow because the tank wouldn't click..but it's still a free replace and install by Toyota. And the one other thing about these seven gens. is they are known to have their belt tensioners loosen up, it's not big deal though and it seems to be mostly a thing to do with cold weather, but some people get it replaced only to have it return, but you can just grease it up and it will be fine again too.. so absolute no worries with that, just an annoying sound is possible.


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