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Celiman69
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May 1, 11:11pm - #169763 
N/A Tuning Questions

I have a few questions (some dumb) that I am hoping you more experienced tuners can help me out on for my Celtic GTS. I want to stay N/A for competition reasons. I currently have an AEM CAI, Greddy Evo Cat-back, Short shifter, etc, and am on my way to getting the Hotchkis stage 2 tvs kit. Now I'm looking for more speed:

My dumb question: Is the DC Sports Header out yet, and if yes does anyone have dynos for it?

Would you guys recommend getting the Unorthodox Ultra ss pulley kit ?

What about the Apexi Power FC ? I see that Lucky_317 has produced some very impressive numbers with it.

That is pretty much what I have planned for my celi. Please give any answers/input/suggestions. THX

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hephaestus
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May 2, 8:15am - #169764 
Looking for more power NA and have money to spend then look into these options as well. 3ZZ Stroker Kit and Brash Boy 2000cc kit

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Celiman69
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May 2, 9:16am - #169765 
cool deal, I'll look in to that. Has anyone heard of porting and polishing the Intake manifold for the GTS?

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May 2, 9:42am - #169766 
1. the dc header is still not out yet (but they have developed another prototype that should be in production soon--but what else is knew?)

2. i wouldnt recommend getting the ultra ss pulley kit or the unorthodox ultra s crank pulley. the gains are ok, but i've heard of a lot of problems they've caused and/or made existing problems worse.

3. the apexi power fc is definatly recommended if you want to stay n/a. retuning your ecu can make you take full advantage of your aftermarket components (such as i/h/e/pulleys, etc) as well as grab a few more 'free' horses just from your engine (in exense of increased wear on your engine).

and as already mentioned..trial makes what they call a 3zz engine kit but what we like to call a 2zz stroker kit that makes some very nice gains and still, technically, maintaining n/a status.

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May 2, 9:42am - #169767 
Originally Posted by Celiman69
cool deal, I'll look in to that. Has anyone heard of porting and polishing the Intake manifold for the GTS?


I heard there are no power gains from it...but never hurts.

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May 2, 11:58am - #169768 
(GT to 3ZZ) is only $600 more than (GTS to 3ZZ). Couple that with a Power FC and that would give us GT's some respectable power gains - eek

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May 2, 12:42pm - #169769 
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
1. the dc header is still not out yet (but they have developed another prototype that should be in production soon--but what else is knew?)

2. i wouldnt recommend getting the ultra ss pulley kit or the unorthodox ultra s crank pulley. the gains are ok, but i've heard of a lot of problems they've caused and/or made existing problems worse.

3. the apexi power fc is definatly recommended if you want to stay n/a. retuning your ecu can make you take full advantage of your aftermarket components (such as i/h/e/pulleys, etc) as well as grab a few more 'free' horses just from your engine (in exense of increased wear on your engine).

and as already mentioned..trial makes what they call a 3zz engine kit but what we like to call a 2zz stroker kit that makes some very nice gains and still, technically, maintaining n/a status.



What kind of problems do the pulleys cause?

And you mention pulleys in your recommendation for the Power FC. Are there other pulleys available that would be worth while?

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May 2, 1:48pm - #169770 
some members that have the pulleys complained of their cars 'balking' and one member attributed them to some serious engine problem (which personally i do not think caused the engine problem..but i assume the pulleys did not help).

the AEM underdrive pulley is reliable..but it will only give you 1-2 extra whp (but for about $60 thats pretty good) thumbsup

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