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Apr 28, 1:33pm - #167126 
2005 lotus elise (w/toyota vvtl-i engine)

just got the new import tuner (w/a nice cover model) and it reminded me about the new lotus elise coming out. here are some specs:

Vehicle type: mid-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door roadster
Estimated base price: $39,000
Engine type: DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, port fuel injection

Displacement: 110 cu in, 1796cc
Power (SAE net): 190 bhp @ 7800 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 133 lb-ft @ 6800 rpm
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Wheelbase: 90.6 in
Length/width/height: 149.0/67.7/44.0 in
Curb weight: 2000 lb

Manufacturer's Performance ratings:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.6 sec
Top speed (drag limited): 141 mph

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Apr 28, 1:40pm - #167127 
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Apr 28, 1:42pm - #167128 
This was brought up quite a few times. I sat in one at the LA auto show. Definately a nice car.

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Apr 28, 1:43pm - #167129 
so wait a lotus is made by Toyota?? or are they just using the Celica GTS engine?? confusedcause cause wow thats just awsome of a ride thumbsup


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Apr 28, 1:48pm - #167130 
Originally Posted by Steven
This was brought up quite a few times. I sat in one at the LA auto show. Definately a nice car.
figured it was but there are always noobs who may not search old posts. happywink


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Apr 28, 1:53pm - #167131 
awesome ride..i like it thumbsup


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Apr 28, 3:10pm - #167132 
Originally Posted by Erick
so wait a lotus is made by Toyota?? or are they just using the Celica GTS engine?? confusedcause cause wow thats just awsome of a ride thumbsup


I don't think Lotus even makes engines. Every Lotus I've ever seen has an engine that was built by someone else.

But yeah... that is one sick ride.


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Apr 28, 3:15pm - #167133 
I wish Celicas performed like that. Thats what the extra $10,000-$15,000 gets ya I guess! They are very cool IMO

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Apr 28, 3:18pm - #167134 
yes i heard it too thumbsup


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Apr 28, 3:34pm - #167135 
Originally Posted by grcelica
I wish Celicas performed like that. Thats what the extra $10,000-$15,000 gets ya I guess! They are very cool IMO
Just give it a 500lb. weight reduction and it will. rofl


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Apr 28, 3:38pm - #167136 
too bad they're all sold out for 2005 already... i probably coulda got my dad to trade the MR-S for one of those.

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Apr 28, 3:40pm - #167137 
Yes Lotus picked the VVTLI engine and tranny for the elise
WHICH MEANS MORE MODS FOR GTS OWNERS IN THE FUTURE (Rumor is Cams)!!!!
Lotus said they wanted a proven reliable ???? engine .
But lotus mods may be to expensive for most celly owners

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Apr 28, 3:40pm - #167138 
Originally Posted by slidr
Originally Posted by grcelica
I wish Celicas performed like that. Thats what the extra $10,000-$15,000 gets ya I guess! They are very cool IMO
Just give it a 500lb. weight reduction and it will. rofl
well, the lotus also has a different Intake and dual exhaust system plus lotus' own ecu.


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Apr 28, 3:43pm - #167139 
4.9 zero to sixty...shit


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Apr 28, 3:44pm - #167140 
now does everyone realize why I gut my car smile lol if mine weighed 2000 lbs I'd be pushin 12's too smile

that thing is gonna be a monster smile can you imagine the stafford Turbo on that thing. 11's smile


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Apr 28, 3:47pm - #167141 
yeah, unless you REALLY wanna be different you can instead get the sti, evo 8, rx8, fairlady, etc... and still have a fair amount of money for mods. heck, just keep the celi and go crazy with fi, full suspension and appearances thumbsup


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Apr 28, 3:48pm - #167142 
actually the vvtl-i engine is made by YAMAHA...sold to toyota for use in the celica gts and some matrixes and supposedly the new corolla thumbsup

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Apr 28, 3:50pm - #167143 
the new elise/exige is rated by many experts to be the best handling car of all time.

thats what crazy weight savings and a mid-engine setupd of perfect 50/50 weight distribution will do to you thumbsup

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Apr 28, 3:50pm - #167144 
i think people are forgetting that the lotus is rwd and it's not just about weight...but 600lbs. less would be nice either way...lol rofl


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Apr 28, 3:55pm - #167145 
the dual exhaust doesn't do anythign for Performance.


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Apr 28, 3:59pm - #167146 
Originally Posted by Krayze
the dual exhaust doesn't do anythign for Performance.
the lotus has more to the exhaust system than just the dual outlets. once it's out i'm sure we'll find out what they did


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Apr 28, 4:05pm - #167147 
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Apr 28, 4:20pm - #167148 
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Apr 28, 4:32pm - #167149 
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
actually the vvtl-i engine is made by YAMAHA...sold to toyota for use in the celica gts and some matrixes and supposedly the new corolla thumbsup


The way I understood it, Yamaha helped to DEVELOP the engine, but that it is made by Toyota. I may have misunderstood tho...

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Apr 28, 4:42pm - #167150 
Originally Posted by grcelica
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
actually the vvtl-i engine is made by YAMAHA...sold to toyota for use in the celica gts and some matrixes and supposedly the new corolla thumbsup


The way I understood it, Yamaha helped to DEVELOP the engine, but that it is made by Toyota. I may have misunderstood tho...
you are correct. it was a co-op r&d


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Apr 28, 5:38pm - #167151 
Originally Posted by JAIMEJAMES
yeah, unless you REALLY wanna be different you can instead get the sti, evo 8, rx8, fairlady, etc... and still have a fair amount of money for mods. heck, just keep the celi and go crazy with fi, full suspension and appearances thumbsup


STi and Evo could match the Elise in a striaght line, if you toss that saved money into mods. It'll still never touch it in handling... Lotus is crazy with their cars handling.

RX8 is slower than a Celica. rofl


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Apr 28, 6:19pm - #167152 
B-E-A-Utiful! thumbsup

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Apr 28, 7:25pm - #167153 
look i know lotus rediesigned the Intake manifold and did some ignition remapping.

its still a foru cylinder and a dual exhaust will not help in Performance.

regardless of what you do to the engine is is still a four cylinder and the laws of physics stil replies. teh dual exhaust is for looks.


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Apr 28, 7:28pm - #167154 
Just when I thought that the VVTL-i couldn't inhabit a nicer body. I love it thumbsup

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Apr 28, 7:41pm - #167155 
Originally Posted by Krayze
look i know lotus rediesigned the Intake manifold and did some ignition remapping.

its still a foru cylinder and a dual exhaust will not help in Performance.

regardless of what you do to the engine is is still a four cylinder and the laws of physics stil replies. teh dual exhaust is for looks.

i dont think its true duel exhaust anyways

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Apr 28, 7:43pm - #167156 
whatever motor fits ina lotus you can do...last one ive seen was a type R motor i think (integra)


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Apr 28, 9:54pm - #167157 
Man that is so damn nice, id LOVE to have that as my ride!! thumbsup

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Apr 28, 10:01pm - #167158 
nice car indeed~


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Apr 28, 10:33pm - #167159 
Its defitinetaly nice, but if celicas had 600 pounds less we could be up there too

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Apr 29, 7:20am - #167160 
its in an msn article too if anyone wants to read up on it more.. for more info and pictures check out the article

http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022486&src=News


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Apr 29, 9:12am - #167161 
that's a fast elise...*cough*...celica...

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Apr 29, 10:26am - #167162 
<---wants one. lol I bet you can go a tenth or 2 faster than what they posted wink


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Apr 29, 4:41pm - #167163 
what i have been told is the reason they use the gts engine is because of the emission problems they had with their engine in america..i think out of the states they use their own engine...
but im too lazy to google this...so i could be wrong, its what i was told by someone who said he loved elise's

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Apr 30, 2:24am - #167164 
i wants me one tasty

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Apr 30, 12:53pm - #167165 
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
actually the vvtl-i engine is made by YAMAHA...sold to toyota for use in the celica gts and some matrixes and supposedly the new corolla thumbsup


Exactly, it's also in the Matrix XR-S.. but they might put it in the Corolla..??? Ew no way, not unless they add a new two door sporty model..bring back the AE86 momentum the car once had, except it will be FWD instead of RWD.


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Apr 30, 5:28pm - #167166 
Originally Posted by Hooman
what i have been told is the reason they use the gts engine is because of the emission problems they had with their engine in america..i think out of the states they use their own engine...
but im too lazy to google this...so i could be wrong, its what i was told by someone who said he loved elise's


well your half right

the old elise used a rover engine the same people who made the land rover.not lotus

also the reason they went with the celica engine was for teh high rev nature.

they never put a powerful engine in it the old engine only had about 119 horsepower in it.


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Apr 30, 8:52pm - #167167 
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
4.9 zero to sixty...shit
its a small car also, that is why its faster...

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May 2, 1:42am - #167168 
yea it's fast... that's great, the most notable thing about the car is how well it handles, period.

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May 2, 1:45am - #167169 
a semi affordable supercar tasty


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May 2, 9:57am - #167170 
handling and speed - I like it

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