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Lowering Troubles... #165716 Apr 26, 4:11pm Apr 26, 4:11pm
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Lowering Troubles...
As some of you may know, I recently purchased and installed some 17 inch Moda R6's on my Celica, and havn't gotten it lowered yet.

I called a few tire places today to get a quote for the installation, and not one of them wants less than $200 dollars to do it. Is this right, because I think I am getting reamed without any type of lube, and these assholes don't care about my asshole.

And I also asked them what I would need if I decided to drop my car 2 inches with the Eibach Pros, and they said that I should be fine.

I thought you needed some sort of alignment kit or something (someone please tell me what it is exactly so I can ask for it from them)?

Anyways, am I getting screwed or not? I would do it myself, but I'm pretty sure that the spring would fire into my baby maker and screw me for life. I'll just leave it to the pros.

Also, if I went two inches all around, would I be scraping on shit a lot? If so, should I go with something a little less extreme instead? And does lowering your car two inches mean that you have to join a gang, or will it not look that bad?


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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: slidr] #165717 Apr 26, 4:13pm Apr 26, 4:13pm
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2 inches with no body kit is fine on 17's
have pros do it

and you may need camber kit, i'm not sure.


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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: VSGTS14] #165718 Apr 26, 4:15pm Apr 26, 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
2 inches with no body kit is fine on 17's
have pros do it

and you may need camber kit, i'm not sure.
But what about 200 for install?


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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: slidr] #165719 Apr 26, 4:18pm Apr 26, 4:18pm
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that doesn't seem that bad 200 for the install but you could do it urself and be a lot cheaper thumbsup


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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: EuRoBoYGT] #165720 Apr 26, 4:25pm Apr 26, 4:25pm
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$200 seems fair. My coilovers were $300 and as for for an alignment kit, you don't need one for the rear but I read some where that you'll need one for the front, and it'll only be $26 + shipping. Two inch drop is pretty low for the front, so you'll definetely scrape if you're not careful.

Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: EuRoBoYGT] #165721 Apr 26, 4:25pm Apr 26, 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by EuRoBoYGT
that doesn't seem that bad 200 for the install but you could do it urself and be a lot cheaper thumbsup
No way to compress the springs. I'll die for some things, but not for lowering my car. wink


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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: v3n0m] #165722 Apr 26, 4:26pm Apr 26, 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by v3n0m
$200 seems fair. My coilovers were $300 and as for for an alignment kit, you don't need one for the rear but I read some where that you'll need one for the front, and it'll only be $26 + shipping. Two inch drop is pretty low for the front, so you'll definetely scrape if you're not careful.
So you think that I should go with a shorter spring kit? Remember, I'm getting springs, not coilovers, so I believe that the drop will be uniform around the car. At least I believe that holds true for most spring kits.


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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: slidr] #165723 Apr 26, 4:30pm Apr 26, 4:30pm
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get the prokit thumbsup


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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: slidr] #165724 Apr 26, 4:32pm Apr 26, 4:32pm
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If you plan on getting a body kit down the road, then I would not lower it that much, I would go with Tein or anything around a 1.4" drop. If you don't plan on getting a kit or ir you're gonna go with a WW lip (which wont lower the front) then I would go ahead & drop it 2". You'll just have to go side way on steep banks.

Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: v3n0m] #165725 Apr 26, 4:36pm Apr 26, 4:36pm
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Originally Posted by v3n0m
If you plan on getting a body kit down the road, then I would not lower it that much, I would go with Tein or anything around a 1.4" drop. If you don't plan on getting a kit or ir you're gonna go with a WW lip (which wont lower the front) then I would go ahead & drop it 2". You'll just have to go side way on steep banks.
I guess I'll go with the 1.4 drop.


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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: v3n0m] #165726 Apr 26, 4:37pm Apr 26, 4:37pm
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I think you need a camber kit for drops 2 inches or lower...

Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: Virgilson] #165727 Apr 26, 7:45pm Apr 26, 7:45pm
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The $200 dollar install for just springs is a little high. $100-$150 is about right. You can always call the company you buy from or whoever makes them and have them recommend a good place to install near your home. That's what I did the second time around and wish I did it first. Plan on something for camber adjustment for the rear if you get it dropped way low. Just for example I have camber links in the back and nothing in the front (probably will need crash bolts there). The morons that installed the links moved the right one out to compensate for the lowering, but left the left side as stock settings and it's way off. The front without anything isn't that bad. I have a bit of plastic hanging from my stock front bumper and I scrap that just going down the highway over bridge joints, so it might not be a good idea to go around 2" with the kit.

Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: hephaestus] #165728 Apr 26, 11:42pm Apr 26, 11:42pm
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Its easy to do. Spring compressor 36bucks or Free to rent at AUTOZONE!

Get 2 people to do it. You an a buddy to help ya out and for moral support.

200bucks too high. i would say 50-125 tops. If its your first time lay out a 5 hour time, also if you get it professionally done they will say 2-3hours come back in 4:)

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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: 10celica10] #165729 Apr 27, 1:40am Apr 27, 1:40am
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just do it yourself... its not that hard at all!! check out the installs section grin *im talking from personal experience of installing the Eibach 2" drop*


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Re: Lowering Troubles... [Re: DJ_Curtiz] #165730 Apr 27, 2:06am Apr 27, 2:06am
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import racing shops around here do it for 70-90 bucks..n they know what they're doin and yes cambers are necessary if you worried about tire wear


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"2 inches with no body kit is fine on 17's
have pros do it"


Would 18's & a 2" drop be ok w/o a bodykit?

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Originally Posted by expinch
"2 inches with no body kit is fine on 17's
have pros do it"


Would 18's & a 2" drop be ok w/o a bodykit?

Yea that would be fine thumbsup


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"And does lowering your car two inches mean that you have to join a gang, or will it not look that bad?"

I've been thinking that same thing about my drop, but too late I already bought Tanabe springs. I just look at my car now and then imagine it 2 inches lower and that seems real low.

But in the pictures on this site all of the cars with 2" drop look great, but I'm wondering if they'll look different when I'm towering over them. I'll find out soon enough.

Unfortunately there are no gangs down here in Mississippi so I may have to start my own.

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Originally Posted by Lee_H
import racing shops around here do it for 70-90 bucks..n they know what they're doin and yes cambers are necessary if you worried about tire wear
Should I get the cambers even if the drop is less than 2 inches, or are they not really necessary?


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