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NeCelica Apr 26, 12:01am - #164942 
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LIFT BOLT HELPPPP?

alrite guys...i just found out my lift bolt is broken...so i wanted to replace it...i unscrew the first one look okiez...the second bolt broke in half...the half got stock in there...so i drill and bought easy screw...the easy screw broke also...so the only things i could do is to drill...i drill all the way in...finally i could put the second bolt in...my Question is...some of the peace could be in side the shaft..will that hurt my engine in the long run...both of my bolt are in now...how often should we replace this bolt..once every oil change?????please let me know what goin people...do you guy think i should take it to dealer and have to take the shaft out n clean it...it cost about 500 and i don't have that kind of money...what you guy thinks...does anyone have this kind of problem before???/
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Lucky_317 Apr 26, 3:54pm - #164943 

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thats not good. I think you are SOL if something happens.

you should check your bolts every 3rd oil change or every 10,500 miles.

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silverOOgts Apr 26, 4:46pm - #164944 

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heres a dumb question Lucky... Where are lift bolts, how do I check them? How do you know if they are broke, no lift?

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NeCelica Apr 26, 6:43pm - #164945 
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here my knowledge about the lift bolt...the lift bolt broke when the rpm all sudenlly drop back and forth...the next day i checked it...it broke...the lift bolt are under the valve cover...so you have to take the valve cover off...there a technical form in ncelica...you can check that out...you can't miss it...re-search and changes it man...also one other things you could notice is when you shift...is not smooth no more...and when you go over 6000 rpm and it doesn't give you a lift...like power...you can tell right away...
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Lucky_317 Apr 26, 8:43pm - #164946 

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common symptoms include: (sometimes you cant notice)
intermittent lift
weak lift
no lift

also if you have an 00 - 01 and have never changed them they need to be replaced even if they arent broke. those years hve a different style bolt.

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slidr Apr 26, 11:14pm - #164947 

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To the guy who started this thread, you must make sure that the remaining fragment of the bolt is out before you drive it. Either take it to a shop, or remove the cams, it should be in there.

The TSB for broken lift bolts explains how to do it all, but if you don't know what you're doing, then don't start something that you can't finish.

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silverOOgts Apr 26, 11:18pm - #164948 

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where do i get the "correct" lift bolts, i dont really trust the parts guys at toyota of des moines? how long does it take to change them on average? how much are they?

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slidr Apr 26, 11:42pm - #164949 

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Originally Posted by silverOOgts
where do i get the "correct" lift bolts, i dont really trust the parts guys at toyota of des moines? how long does it take to change them on average? how much are they?
They are like 40 cents per bolt, and if you have never done this kind of work before, give yourself at least an hour or maybe longer. An impact wrench always helps too.

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ct Apr 26, 11:43pm - #164950 

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where do i get the "correct" lift bolts, i dont really trust the parts guys at toyota of des moines? AT TOYOTA. if they give you the wrong part just send it back. the part number is also in the tsb https://www.celicahobby.com/tech/tsb2/TSB_liftbolts.pdf

how long does it take to change them on average? 15 min...30 min if you're going really slow...like me grin

how much are they?
50 cents...each...

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celicafourotwo Apr 27, 3:07am - #164951 

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man i betta get mine replace. i have a 00 gts..with 28k on it..was goin to wait til my oil change at 30k but i guess the sooner the betta right??

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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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silverOOgts Apr 27, 3:42pm - #164952 

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if you go to the tech info, is it really that complicated? please say no!!

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Lucky_317 Apr 27, 5:27pm - #164953 

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^^ Thats only if they are broken. unbroken on a cold engine 20 mins tops. 1 hr or more for noobs.

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silverOOgts Apr 27, 5:41pm - #164954 

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gotcha, better do them before they break then...

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Lucky_317 Apr 27, 8:44pm - #164955 

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good idea thumbsup

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abilko Apr 28, 6:32pm - #164956 
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Do only GTS' have lift bolts?
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Lucky_317 Apr 28, 8:30pm - #164957 

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Originally Posted by abilko
Do only GTS' have lift bolts?


only a gts has lift right? rofl

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slidr Apr 28, 10:24pm - #164958 

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Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
man i betta get mine replace. i have a 00 gts..with 28k on it..was goin to wait til my oil change at 30k but i guess the sooner the betta right??
My GTS had 75k miles on it when I decided to replace the factory bolts. The factory bolts were hardly worn.

I guess I got lucky.

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BaTMaN_4 Apr 29, 12:10am - #164959 

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So prety much anyone who has a GTS has to replace his lift bolts?
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slidr Apr 29, 12:11am - #164960 

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Originally Posted by BaTMaN_4
So prety much anyone who has a GTS has to replace his lift bolts?
If you have an 00-02, replace them immediately.

They should also be replaced every 13k miles I believe.

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celicafourotwo Apr 29, 2:59am - #164961 

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NeCelica, y didn't you have toyota replace it for u?? are you out of powertrain warranty already?? 5years/60,000 miles..

one question for everyone..if you broke the bolts when trying to replace it, will the warranty still cover it?? i mean it's your own fault you try to replace it and screwed up..hehe..just curious because i'm changing my tomorrow..wish me luck thumbsup

Originally Posted by pesho01
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Lucky_317 Apr 29, 5:40pm - #164962 

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^^^ if you manage to break those bolts while changing them you don't belong near an engine.

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ct Apr 29, 5:59pm - #164963 

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
^^^ if you manage to break those bolts while changing them you don't belong near an engine.


you'd have to be a real monkey to break bolts...my only fear when changing them was having to drop them in the engine because those suckers are slippery...lol rofl

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celicafourotwo Apr 29, 7:14pm - #164964 

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^^^ betta wipe it clean before start turning it..once it almost came out you can use ur bare hand and twist it out, considering ur engine have to be cold or cool way down.

i went to the dealer today to buy some but they're out..I told them i want to buy the "LIFT BOLTS" and they goes, the what bolts?? they are so dumb..then i found out later that the name for it is "FLANGE BOLTS" not LIFT..but still the dude should have know what i'm talking about, i kept on explaining that it's for Celica GTS, and he was like "what?? for celica?"" finally someone else came and explain it to him, so i ordered them, cost me $1.67 for 2 bolts, i'm picking it up on Tuesday..they also give me 17pages on instructions on how to uninstall and everything..lucky for me i suppose.. thumbsup

Originally Posted by pesho01
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slidr Apr 29, 7:17pm - #164965 

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by Lucky_317
^^^ if you manage to break those bolts while changing them you don't belong near an engine.


you'd have to be a real monkey to break bolts...my only fear when changing them was having to drop them in the engine because those suckers are slippery...lol rofl
You couldn't drop it anywhere where you couldn't get it from. The only place that it might be hard to get out of would be the spark plug tube. You can't drop it down into any of the internals really.

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Lucky_317 Apr 29, 8:13pm - #164966 

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if you need 13 pages to tell you how to swap an unbroken lift bolt theres an issue. lol

and you could drop it under the cams. lol but it's not likely unless you oops big time.

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ct Apr 29, 8:37pm - #164967 

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317


and you could drop it under the cams.


exactly...that royal purple stuff is extra slippery...

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Sparty Apr 29, 11:11pm - #164968 

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damn, so how many bolts need to be changed???? some say 8, some say 6, you guys over here mention 2... im lost confused
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slidr Apr 29, 11:18pm - #164969 

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Originally Posted by Sparty
damn, so how many bolts need to be changed???? some say 8, some say 6, you guys over here mention 2... im lost confused
There are only two of them. Intake and exhaust from what I've been told.

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slidr Apr 29, 11:20pm - #164970 

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by Lucky_317


and you could drop it under the cams.


exactly...that royal purple stuff is extra slippery...
You'd kinda have to force it down a little to lose it under the cams, but either way, just use something magnetic to pick them up. Any mechanic that I have ever met has a little magnetic rod that's useful for picking up dropped bolts, screws, etc.

Most screw drivers are magnetic also, so once you loosen it with an impact wrench or socket wrench, just pick it up that way.





And one more thing. Don't work on the engine when it's hot/warm like I (dumbass) did. I bent the oil feed pipe and couldn't get the head cover back on, but luckily I had my GF's dad shave it down and bend it back. If it weren't for him, I would have had to buy a whole new head cover for $300 bucks.

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celicafourotwo Apr 30, 12:05am - #164971 

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oh yeah the 17pages they gave me, i think it wasn't meant for me but for the part saleman but that dude just gave it to me. in there it include the instruction on how to change ur lift (Flange) bolts (only 2) it also got step by step showing you how to change the one that got broken too..but it's too complicated, you have to unscrew all the 20 bolts on the Intake and exhaust camshaft out and you have to take the chain out and yadda yadda yadda..basically if you're changing it try not to break it..oh yeah if you think you might drop it just put shop rag on top of the camshaft and surrounding the bolts..that way you won't drop it no where, in case you do it'll drop on the rag and not inside any valve or whatevr..

Originally Posted by pesho01
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Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
oh yeah the 17pages they gave me, i think it wasn't meant for me but for the part saleman but that dude just gave it to me. in there it include the instruction on how to change ur lift (Flange) bolts (only 2) it also got step by step showing you how to change the one that got broken too..but it's too complicated, you have to unscrew all the 20 bolts on the Intake and exhaust camshaft out and you have to take the chain out and yadda yadda yadda..basically if you're changing it try not to break it..oh yeah if you think you might drop it just put shop rag on top of the camshaft and surrounding the bolts..that way you won't drop it no where, in case you do it'll drop on the rag and not inside any valve or whatevr..
You don't have to do 90% of the stuff that they mention in that TSB if your bolts aren't broken.

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celicafourotwo Apr 30, 12:24am - #164973 

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yeah i know, i just want to point out that..i'm not gonna do everything in the first place anyway..i just want to change the bolts..that's all..hehe

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Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
yeah i know, i just want to point out that..i'm not gonna do everything in the first place anyway..i just want to change the bolts..that's all..hehe
Oh, well hopefully your aren't broken and come out in one piece. Others havn't been so lucky.

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celicafourotwo Apr 30, 1:09am - #164975 

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^^ yeah, that's what i've heard too..i hope mine won't break as i try to take it off next week.

Originally Posted by pesho01
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Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
^^ yeah, that's what i've heard too..i hope mine won't break as i try to take it off next week.
They won't break as you try to take them off. If you unscrew one and see that it's broken, then it's not because it broke when you unscrewed it, but rather while the car was being driven.

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celicafourotwo Apr 30, 2:15am - #164977 

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^^^ok, that's good to hear..cuz if it already broke then i want the dealer to take care of it..cover under warranty anyway.

Originally Posted by pesho01
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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
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