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DiabloGTS Apr 21, 8:17pm - #161044 

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Interior backlights, the bs continues

this afternoon I took my ENTIRE dash apart, traced every wire, checked every connection.

Still, NO answer to this problem!! angry angry angry angry angry angry
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spaztikid Apr 21, 8:19pm - #161045 
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is the knob turned to dim?
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celicaTRDgts Apr 21, 8:25pm - #161046 

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
is the knob turned to dim?

werd check that

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DiabloGTS Apr 21, 8:45pm - #161047 

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the gauges light up just fine, and the dimmer works.

The radio back light blips on, then shuts off. thumbsdown

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jeeze, that stuff always looks so confusing...
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DiabloGTS Apr 21, 8:55pm - #161049 

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think thats confusing, look at this! eek
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CeLlYgT04 Apr 21, 9:06pm - #161050 

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That's crazy bro...Don't know what to say frown

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lol... WOW eek

ok i have lost it rofl

to many wires for me and to many things that i could break...
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FPcelica Apr 21, 10:20pm - #161052 
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fo real take in

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VSGTS14 Apr 21, 10:23pm - #161053 

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it's not that hard to understand everything under there...

once you work under there, you figure it out..


anyway, so it's JUST the radio that doesn't light??

or the entire center console (AC and shit)?

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DiabloGTS Apr 21, 10:29pm - #161054 

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the entire center console is dark.

The radio comes on for a brief second, goes dark.

Stereo works, cig lighter works, no light.

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VSGTS14 Apr 21, 10:31pm - #161055 

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you checked fuses for that??

maybe the fuse isn't tight...
otherwise, it can be a wire leading to or from the fuse...loose connection.

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DiabloGTS Apr 21, 10:33pm - #161056 

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fuses are good, relay is good, board is brand new, bulbs work

Checked the connections today

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slidr Apr 21, 10:42pm - #161057 

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Hey, at least your car runs. smile

Got my new wheels/tires in today and I've gotta wait a few days to drive on them.



But yeah, this is bullshit. I'm gonna ask the guy in the parts department if they have had people complaining of this, and I might just have them service it.

Also, when the A/C is turned on, the light doesn't kick on.

Diablo, I think my A/C bulb is good because people have complained about the same thing happening to them, so what wire runs to the A/C bulb, and not the Rear Defrost, because that still works and lights up.

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cycocelica Apr 21, 11:09pm - #161058 

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so many wires. sucks dude, take it in i guess
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spaztikid Apr 21, 11:27pm - #161059 
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maybe there's a fuse on the inside of the radio?... take apart the radio.
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DiabloGTS Apr 21, 11:32pm - #161060 

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I did take it in and Toyota said "Sorry, we can't fix it"

They wanted $1500 in shop time for diagnostics. thumbsdown

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VSGTS14 Apr 21, 11:34pm - #161061 

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wtf...

idk...what the hell could cause it...

the board is new...but maybe there's a defect in it??

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slidr Apr 21, 11:40pm - #161062 

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I'll just keep telling myself that my interior looks good in the dark.

I wired in some lights so the AC console lights up, but the radio doesn't light up, and the A/C button doesn't either.

Gayness.

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DiabloGTS Apr 21, 11:46pm - #161063 

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both of my buttons light up, AC and Defroster...it all has power... confused

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spaztikid Apr 21, 11:47pm - #161064 
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buy an aftermarket deck spineyes

and put EL wire behind the heat/cold knobs to make em light up thumbsup
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Tater Apr 22, 12:32am - #161065 

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If the instrument cluster lights work but all of the console and radio lights dont, its likely that you have a faulty instrument cluster. Do this diagnostic procedure to verify that the cluster is the problem: Remove the cluster and jumper the white and green wire on the blue plug to ground. Turn on the ignition and headlights. If the console lights are illuminated then the problem is in the cluster. You can just leave the white and green wire grounded and the console lights will work at full brightness. See the pic below for the location of the wire. Good luck. thumbsup

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Rocketman Apr 22, 12:48am - #161066 

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DiabloGTS Apr 22, 1:08am - #161067 

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how do I "jumper" those wires?

(Thanks a lot for this tip, I'm all out of answers frown )

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Tater Apr 22, 2:21am - #161068 

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Skin the wires back slightly and wrap a short length of wire to them.Tape the exposed wires when done. See pic below:
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slidr Apr 22, 2:23am - #161069 

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Holy shit, would this fix it or diagnose the problem?

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DiabloGTS Apr 22, 2:26am - #161070 

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Tater, I did this just now, the green white to #10 GRD on the white plug, and it didn't fix the problem. cry

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slidr Apr 22, 2:30am - #161071 

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Tater, I did this just now, the green white to #10 GRD on the white plug, and it didn't fix the problem. cry
Fuck.

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Tater Apr 22, 3:03am - #161072 

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Tater, I did this just now, the green white to #10 GRD on the white plug, and it didn't fix the problem. cry


Are you using the stock OEM radio? If you are using an aftermarket deck, try disconnecting the light lead from it and see what happens. The celica lights function by attenuation of the ground. If that doesnt solve the problem then that's about all the help I can offer. You will need an expert to hands on search out your problem.
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DiabloGTS Apr 22, 3:36am - #161073 

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I'm stock everything.

I went to an expert, a Toyota expert, and they said they couldn't fix it.

Oh well, I'll just have to get used to it. Another reason I'll never buy a Toyota again. angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

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xxmonkeyboixx Apr 22, 3:40am - #161074 

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weird...sometimes when fuses burn out you cant really tell if its burnt or not. Ive had that happen to me once. good luck man!!!
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Know666 Apr 22, 3:41am - #161075 

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Originally Posted by slidr
Hey, at least your car runs. smile

Got my new wheels/tires in today and I've gotta wait a few days to drive on them.



But yeah, this is bullshit. I'm gonna ask the guy in the parts department if they have had people complaining of this, and I might just have them service it.

Also, when the A/C is turned on, the light doesn't kick on.

Diablo, I think my A/C bulb is good because people have complained about the same thing happening to them, so what wire runs to the A/C bulb, and not the Rear Defrost, because that still works and lights up.


Take it from a parts guy. Don't ask for advice. We don't give info. if we do, it's usually bull
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DiabloGTS Apr 22, 3:45am - #161076 

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I don't take any information from Toyota, because 99% of the employees don't know a dick from a glass of a milk.

Most inept service I've ever encountered in my life. The people at WAL-MART are more helpful.

"What's a TAIL relay? confused "

Dumbass. thumbsdown

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wherdZ Apr 22, 3:55am - #161077 

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im confused, which wire harness are those
where are these plugs coming from, please be more specific
thanx a lot bro

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SSCarbonGTS Apr 22, 2:29pm - #161078 

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When I bought my celi, the console light from the radio to the shifter doesn't work... angry angry angry

But one time and only one time they work for an unknown reason... I was like eek eek

I wish I Know what happen... rolleyes

I'm still thinking it's a bad ground...

One time we check if the bulb have power... and they have... some one told me that the bulb always receive power and when the light are turn on... they are grounded... and then the are lightning up !

but, I don't really know where to start finding the ground... confused confused confused

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trog2233 Apr 22, 2:33pm - #161079 

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ok jameson heres what you gotta do...did you test the wire at the light? If you still have power then its somethign with ur light. If you dont' have power you can try to trace that back but thats almost impossible...just run a wire from ur dimmer switch to ur light and cut the old wire and tape it up and run a brand new wire...it will work then thumbsup

Or if you come to the june meet i'll fix it there for you thumbsup

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SSCarbonGTS Apr 22, 3:15pm - #161080 

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Also,
I tried my friend Stock GTS Radio(the light works in his celica) and didn't work in mine...

So it's not the radio the problem for me ...

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DiabloGTS Apr 22, 3:17pm - #161081 

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Nate, I tested the entire board (pins 4 and 7 are for the loop for power) they had continuity, and the bulbs each have continuity.

You got me as to what it is, if you can fix it, I'll buy you a 6 pack thumbsup

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trog2233 Apr 22, 3:24pm - #161082 

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Nate, I tested the entire board (pins 4 and 7 are for the loop for power) they had continuity, and the bulbs each have continuity.

You got me as to what it is, if you can fix it, I'll buy you a 6 pack thumbsup


haha i'll fix it for you rofl it doesn't sound too hard to do...probably a pinched wire or a circuit loop is out somewhere thumbsup
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DiabloGTS Apr 22, 4:28pm - #161083 

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thats probably all it is, I've checked every other damn thing in the car. thumbsdown

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slidr Apr 22, 10:38pm - #161084 

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Originally Posted by trog2233
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Nate, I tested the entire board (pins 4 and 7 are for the loop for power) they had continuity, and the bulbs each have continuity.

You got me as to what it is, if you can fix it, I'll buy you a 6 pack thumbsup


haha i'll fix it for you rofl it doesn't sound too hard to do...probably a pinched wire or a circuit loop is out somewhere thumbsup
Gotta be a circuit loop, because this has happened to too many people, and a pinched wire just doesn't sound right.

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