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celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... #160471 Apr 20, 7:24pm Apr 20, 7:24pm
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celcia vs srt4 how to compete with...
just wondering, how can we compete with the new srt-4, anybody got any ideas, installing a Turbo? srt4 is about like 220-230hp stock, what would be the best way besides nos, to counter it. eventhough celica engines are 1.8L and the srt-4 is 2.4L would adding a Turbo keep up with it even though they have differnt L engines.

TRD needs to keep up with the competion. mopar has plenty of engine upgrades to support the srt4, what about TRD! get with the program man yur supercharger doesnt fit, retards

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: tbone8ty] #160472 Apr 20, 7:53pm Apr 20, 7:53pm
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hell yeah dude a Turbo celica makes more then that AT THE WHEELS, it would wax that thing


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: eric_h] #160473 Apr 20, 8:48pm Apr 20, 8:48pm
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i wouldn't say that a Turbo celica would wax it, i've seen teh new stock srt4 run a 13.8, so it would be tough to wax
EDIT** the new srt4 has the stock LSD


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: My Sixth Gear] #160474 Apr 20, 9:04pm Apr 20, 9:04pm
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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: Rocketman] #160475 Apr 20, 9:09pm Apr 20, 9:09pm
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strait line acceleration mod for mod the SRT-4 will kill the celica. ex. celica gets a Turbo, the SRT-4 gets a mopar stage 2 Turbo upgrade...end result...SRT-4 still kills in the strait line. but thats all the srt-4 will win in. handling, braking, and looks the celica wins in, plus the GTS has 6speed gearbox


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: NorwayGT] #160476 Apr 20, 9:30pm Apr 20, 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
strait line acceleration mod for mod the SRT-4 will kill the celica. ex. celica gets a Turbo, the SRT-4 gets a mopar stage 2 Turbo upgrade...end result...SRT-4 still kills in the strait line. but thats all the srt-4 will win in. handling, braking, and looks the celica wins in, plus the GTS has 6speed gearbox

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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: LostAngel] #160477 Apr 21, 8:28am Apr 21, 8:28am
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those srt's are quick. there's a yellow one around here(p-cola, fl) that dynoes at 258hp. mopar stage 1 upgrade and some tuning.


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: enufced904] #160478 Apr 21, 9:02am Apr 21, 9:02am
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I can take um stock but any kinda mods w/ decent driver and theres not much hope for the celica. best I've seen was a 12.5 w/ fully built motor, 50 shot, Turbo. from a celica.

there are a lot of srt's in 11's wink


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: My Sixth Gear] #160479 Apr 21, 9:03am Apr 21, 9:03am
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Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
i wouldn't say that a Turbo celica would wax it, i've seen teh new stock srt4 run a 13.8, so it would be tough to wax
EDIT** the new srt4 has the stock LSD


Lucky runs 13.7 with Intake and a power FC with unbolted exhaust on a 6sp GTS...he's dyno'ing at around 190whp eek...


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: ct] #160480 Apr 21, 9:09am Apr 21, 9:09am
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and the celica goes down...


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: Pink_Panther] #160481 Apr 21, 9:15am Apr 21, 9:15am
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Sure the STR4 has straight line power, but what's the point if it can't turn worth jack. The Celica can easily beat the crap out of the SRT4 in a road course.

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: v3n0m] #160482 Apr 21, 9:19am Apr 21, 9:19am
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so the next time i see one on the street reving at me im gonna ask if he wouldnt mind going to the road course to race thumbsdown


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: Pink_Panther] #160483 Apr 21, 9:21am Apr 21, 9:21am
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^ if you see him reving at you, you tell him to go f*ck himself grin If you take those kind of people serious then I pitty the fool.

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: v3n0m] #160484 Apr 21, 9:25am Apr 21, 9:25am
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lol dam crackers


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: Pink_Panther] #160485 Apr 21, 9:33am Apr 21, 9:33am
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Get a Power FC and a LSD.

9/10 drivers of an SRT-4 are going to rev it to reline and dump the clutch, you can toast them


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: DiabloGTS] #160486 Apr 21, 9:36am Apr 21, 9:36am
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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: Pink_Panther] #160487 Apr 21, 9:44am Apr 21, 9:44am
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O.K. the SRT-4 may be faster accelerating (as is the Mustang GT, Z28, etc.) BUT any fool can push down on a gas pedal! Jam on some corners and see if they can follow you. I'd rather beat someone with skill than just because my motor is bigger. They can out accelerate a Celica - they could also beat up a 5 year old - so what?
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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: RAWGTS] #160488 Apr 21, 10:06am Apr 21, 10:06am
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Originally Posted by RAWGTS
O.K. the SRT-4 may be faster accelerating (as is the Mustang GT, Z28, etc.) BUT any fool can push down on a gas pedal! Jam on some corners and see if they can follow you. I'd rather beat someone with skill than just because my motor is bigger. They can out accelerate a Celica - they could also beat up a 5 year old - so what?
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i belive there was a mag (desert show down)that had a gts and srt-4 that ran on the same track...the gts had the better times!


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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: ct] #160489 Apr 21, 10:10am Apr 21, 10:10am
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It's in the General forum under Car and Driver.

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: v3n0m] #160490 Apr 21, 10:30am Apr 21, 10:30am
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yeah i saw that, my friend has an SRT-4 with it fully hooked up, hes got about 25,000 put into it, he runs low 11s. my friends GT4 w/ Turbo runs mid 10's and beat his srt-4... so just do the comparison. Old Celicas w/ Turbo and AWD can take the SRT4 easy wink lol
but celicas have dohc over the srt4, so race an srt4 in a sprint, the celica will win. once the celica get's to 5th gear, we'll be chillin' in the high speeds while the SRT4 is waiting to shift out of 4th and we'll be goin' to 6th, the srt4 has no competition in the top-end.

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: hkysk8r86] #160491 Oct 11, 1:44pm Oct 11, 1:44pm
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can some one refresh my memory on how the power fc and lsd work on the celica, what do they do exactly

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: tbone8ty] #160492 Oct 11, 1:56pm Oct 11, 1:56pm
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Race it from a roll. If a stock GTS can beat an Evo MR from a high speed roll, and a GT can beat a WRX from a roll, a modded Celica vs an SRT-4 should be no problem.

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: v3n0m] #160493 Oct 11, 2:27pm Oct 11, 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by v3n0m
Sure the STR4 has straight line power, but what's the point if it can't turn worth jack. The Celica can easily beat the crap out of the SRT4 in a road course.


Well, that's easy to fix on an SRT4... Keep in mind, it's based off of the neon... Before the latest celicas came along, and neons were underpowered, they used to dominate the autocross course, suspension mods are plentiful for neons, and with some tewaking, they handle pretty damn good.

Before the SRT4, there was a track-package for the neon from the factory (called the neon ACR)
it was a barebones neon, no stereo, no AC, and a ton of suspension tuning and the ever-popular twincam under the bulged Hood. they made this car for solo2 peeps, they could buy one from the dealership and go racing the same day, Mopar also offered nice contingency money for those that ran the neon, because of this, the neon became a popular auto-x car, and still is to this day.

While handling and braking are not the SRT-4's strong suit, and not even close to the celica in those terms, they are easy to find suspension bits for, and when brougt up to speed suspension and brake-wise, they are a close match for our cars...

Of course, if you mod the suspension on the celica, this is a moot point as well. sort of a polar opposite to the engine and drivetrain situation.

in the end it all depends on the drivers, and how well the cars are set up anyways.


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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: Rave669] #160494 Oct 11, 2:44pm Oct 11, 2:44pm
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Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: enufced904] #160495 Oct 11, 6:56pm Oct 11, 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by enufced904
those srt's are quick. there's a yellow one around here(p-cola, fl) that dynoes at 258hp. mopar stage 1 upgrade and some tuning.


That's why they say "there's no replacement for displacement"...in a drag race...if both engines are treated alike...a 2.4L turbo should and would spank a 1.8L turbo..

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: sbocaj55] #160496 Oct 12, 7:21am Oct 12, 7:21am
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Sadly the 2k Celica isn't built for drag, but more of a NA track car, so you guys shouldn't expect too much out it as far as drag racing goes.
The SRT4 is nice car, especially when you consider its base on a neon.

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: shonen] #160497 Oct 12, 7:32am Oct 12, 7:32am
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^^ i grudgingly agree. I love my celica though, and i perfer hearing "oh SHIIIIIIIT!!!" from my passenger when i cut a corner rollin around 60 without barking a tire. Driving corners is way more fun than goin in a straight line IMO

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Originally Posted by Blue_Bomber
Race it from a roll. If a stock GTS can beat an Evo MR from a high speed roll, and a GT can beat a WRX from a roll, a modded Celica vs an SRT-4 should be no problem.


So it is possible for a Celica GT to beat a WRX from a roll? confused

Re: celcia vs srt4 how to compete with... [Re: NorwayGT] #160499 Oct 12, 8:22am Oct 12, 8:22am
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
strait line acceleration mod for mod the SRT-4 will kill the celica. ex. celica gets a Turbo, the SRT-4 gets a mopar stage 2 Turbo upgrade...end result...SRT-4 still kills in the strait line. but thats all the srt-4 will win in. handling, braking, and looks the celica wins in, plus the GTS has 6speed gearbox

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