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Lucky_317 Apr 18, 4:56am - #157798 

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Intake + power fc = almost 190 whp (dynos inside)

So like I said all along we were able to pull so much in just 2 hrs of tuning the power fc to my car.

this was not some pro shop costing over $100 an hr this was just us w/ a laptop and dyno. lol

my daily street map on a warm run is 182.6whp 134.0 wtq smile

my track map is significantly higher than that. we ran 38 passes back to back and still dynoed 4th gear at 182.8 whp and 134.6 wtq. judging by the 6 whp gain we got from letting the car sit for 20 mins before dynoing the street map again my tack map on a non burning up motor will be around 188 - 190 wink stock ecu was 166.5 whp and 120.5 wtq I'd say the little bit of $$ I spent on dyno time was VERY well spent.

I've also got a perfect A/F ratio and a nice even power curve.
scanning dyno sheets will post in a min...

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eric_h Apr 18, 5:04am - #157799 

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thumbsup amazing what 2 mods and a little ingenuity will get ya

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Sultan Apr 18, 7:03am - #157800 

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impressive results bro - thumbsup
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spaztikid Apr 18, 7:05am - #157801 
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Steven Apr 18, 8:33am - #157802 
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celicarush Apr 18, 10:55am - #157803 
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good god impressive!!!

i want to see this against a hondata type s!!
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RevMonster Apr 18, 10:57am - #157804 

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Originally Posted by celicarush
good god impressive!!!

i want to see this against a hondata type s!!


First you would have to find one that didn't have the engine blow up. rofl

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haha^^^...nice results bro thumbsup
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mastro543 Apr 18, 12:06pm - #157806 

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nice thumbsup

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Clos Apr 18, 12:39pm - #157807 
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wat porwer fc did you use?
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drkramm Apr 18, 12:49pm - #157808 
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YoshiVS Apr 18, 2:32pm - #157809 

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SanjiX Apr 18, 2:57pm - #157810 
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-This mite sound kinda retarded, but -- Isn't it true that the apexi AFC only works for the celica GTS?
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Lucky_317 Apr 18, 4:48pm - #157811 

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^^ it's power fc NOT afc the AFC doesnt work on any celica wink

anyways I got tired last night and went to bed. lol

heres the graphs...

This is my baseline run compared to my finished map.

1) stock ECU
2) power fc - this was our old tuning.
3) power fc tuned for 2 hrs
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Lucky_317 Apr 18, 4:50pm - #157812 

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damn it. gue syou guys will have to wait. my server is down at the moment and imagestation is being an a$$

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Lucky_317 Apr 18, 5:00pm - #157813 

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ok use this link to view the images...

ftp://ftp.hosttheweb.com/ksbservices.com/dyno/41704/

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Erick Apr 18, 5:10pm - #157814 

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nice results.. actuaually.. AWSOME results thumbsup

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Krayze Apr 18, 6:20pm - #157815 

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makes me wonder if you had a Intake exhasut header and power fc if you could hit teh 200 mark when tuned.

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Lucky_317 Apr 18, 6:21pm - #157816 

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if I can get a good header that puts down around 10 whp on it's own I think I could make it pull me to 200. but I doubt it. maybe 195 max. we'll know when we do illusives car w/ header next time. smile

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EuRoBoYGT Apr 18, 6:22pm - #157817 

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wow lucky thats cool thumbsup i wonder how much hp illusive will have with his nex set up

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eric_h Apr 18, 6:57pm - #157818 

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wow yeah it would be nice to see with header and all that business, how is it for driveability? still an everyday car?

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Illusive Apr 18, 7:27pm - #157819 
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Originally Posted by eric_h
wow yeah it would be nice to see with header and all that business, how is it for driveability? still an everyday car?


the street maps a/f ratios were still on the safe side of the curve around 13.0 even throughout the powerband, so he should have no problems with drivability on the street.

the track map however is a bit more extreme and I would not drive daily on that map smile

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celicaTRDgts Apr 18, 8:10pm - #157820 

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impressive results bro - thumbsup

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ToiletPaper Apr 18, 8:13pm - #157821 
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Lucky_317 Apr 19, 6:51am - #157822 

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the street map has already been put to harsh uses and it passed with flying colors. smile

as a certain individual with a ss z28 found out when I took him up to 130 before he started to pull it back. lol by 145 he was passing me slowly though frown not bad considering I had a passenger and he wasnt stock wink I cant wait to hit the track thursday!!!

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stefanoc Apr 19, 7:04am - #157823 

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the map you using now is not good for daily driving? y does it burn too much gas or wuts the downside of the aggressive map?
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Speed4TheNeed Apr 19, 11:14am - #157824 

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that's awesome mike...i love the street map results.

i'm not too crazy about pumping too much power into regular driving though...it's just too much wear on the engine for me. maybe if i had another car, but that's not likely.

anyway, your pushing a TON of power from a celica, and that is great thing thumbsup
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CelicaTC Apr 19, 3:03pm - #157825 
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Originally Posted by stefanoc
the map you using now is not good for daily driving? y does it burn too much gas or wuts the downside of the aggressive map?


http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Volvo_Books/engine7.html

I believe the stock ecu gets a mixture of 17:1 a richer mixture can cause carbon fouling.
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Lucky_317 Apr 19, 5:20pm - #157826 

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^^^ lol the stock ecu is NOT 17:1 spineyes

my street map IS good for daily driving which is why we made it. my track map on the other hand is MUCH more aggressive and shouldnt be driven daily. also I dont think it is burning any more gas than stock wink at one point I was using a map that gave me better mileage then stock. lol I toped off my tank again and I'm gonna see how many mg I get now. my best so far was 45 mpg average w/ lotsa frwy driving. lol even racing that map averaged 27 mpg smile yes I even keep track of gas mileage. lol my worst was the mwr map I averaged 25 mpg frwy and 18 racing frown

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CelicaTC Apr 19, 5:31pm - #157827 
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What is it then?

Originally Posted by Lucky_317
^^^ lol the stock ecu is NOT 17:1 spineyes

my street map IS good for daily driving which is why we made it. my track map on the other hand is MUCH more aggressive and shouldnt be driven daily. also I dont think it is burning any more gas than stock wink at one point I was using a map that gave me better mileage then stock. lol I toped off my tank again and I'm gonna see how many mg I get now. my best so far was 45 mpg average w/ lotsa frwy driving. lol even racing that map averaged 27 mpg smile yes I even keep track of gas mileage. lol my worst was the mwr map I averaged 25 mpg frwy and 18 racing frown
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Illusive Apr 19, 7:28pm - #157828 
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Originally Posted by CelicaTC
What is it then?

Originally Posted by Lucky_317
^^^ lol the stock ecu is NOT 17:1 spineyes

my street map IS good for daily driving which is why we made it. my track map on the other hand is MUCH more aggressive and shouldnt be driven daily. also I dont think it is burning any more gas than stock wink at one point I was using a map that gave me better mileage then stock. lol I toped off my tank again and I'm gonna see how many mg I get now. my best so far was 45 mpg average w/ lotsa frwy driving. lol even racing that map averaged 27 mpg smile yes I even keep track of gas mileage. lol my worst was the mwr map I averaged 25 mpg frwy and 18 racing frown


depending on your mods it fluctuates. btw 17.0 a/f ratio is super SUPER LEAN!

the stock ecu can range from 15 to 11's

pre lift on my car it was between 14.0-15.0 and in lift it was from 13.0 to 11.0, it fluctuates badly.

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CelicaTC Apr 19, 8:31pm - #157829 
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So with the PFC you can tune it to be more constant. At a mixture that is more optimal?

Is in "lift" a richer mixture needed? Depending on the octane number of the fuel?
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Lucky_317 Apr 19, 8:48pm - #157830 

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if you look at the graphs you'll see we kept it to 13.0 across the power band. thumbsup no need to have it richer in lift that we saw.

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SatinSilverGTS Apr 19, 9:20pm - #157831 

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Yeah I wonder how much I could get with the Injen CAI, Kazuma, and DC Header when it comes out! Hmmmm...

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Illusive Apr 19, 10:31pm - #157832 
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Originally Posted by CelicaTC
So with the PFC you can tune it to be more constant. At a mixture that is more optimal?

Is in "lift" a richer mixture needed? Depending on the octane number of the fuel?


since 13.0 a/f is a ratio, if you keep it constant at 13.0 as your rpms go up and your engine requires more fuel to keep the 13.0 a/f ratio, there is no need to richen it in lift, as it is already getting more fuel at say 8K rpms than at 2K rpms, the ratio of air molecules to fuel molicules stays the same

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very nice results! thumbsup
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Originally Posted by celicaTRDgts
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impressive results bro - thumbsup


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