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Fear Apr 16, 12:35am - #155763 
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Turbo GTS?

i think i read it on here that it is not posible to Turbo the gts, but why is that?
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tgts2000 Apr 16, 12:37am - #155764 

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That isnt true there are a few kits for the GTS like the XS kit!! I believe SF is also producing one!
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LostAngel Apr 16, 12:38am - #155765 
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it's possible...and there are Turbo GTS'. There was a problem though with the Turbo's available at the time not being able to work on the '03+ celicas, due to Drive By Wire. Though I believe the SF Turbo for the GTS works for it as well.
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eric_h Apr 16, 1:43am - #155766 

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Originally Posted by tgts2000
That isnt true there are a few kits for the GTS like the XS kit!! I believe SF is also producing one!


yup SF has it for the gts i showed a video of a dyno run, thing squealed the tires on the dyno and made 241 whp thumbsup

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Lucky_317 Apr 16, 5:14am - #155767 

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lol my teamates kit put down 250 whp with the stafford kit.
also the stafford kit works with the 03 DBW!

XS kit is not as strong and is very unreliable.

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jav8or Apr 16, 5:22am - #155768 

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
lol my teamates kit put down 250 whp with the stafford kit.
also the stafford kit works with the 03 DBW!

XS kit is not as strong and is very unreliable.

how much psi is he pushing and is he doing it on stock internals

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Sid Apr 16, 6:28am - #155769 

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is it possible to Turbo a GT?

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PolarisNV Apr 16, 6:31am - #155770 

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Originally Posted by Sid
is it possible to Turbo a GT?


yes it is possible, but less companies do Turbos for GT's, although you could just go custom...

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jav8or Apr 16, 6:36am - #155771 

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da sport s and stafford fabrications are the only companies i know that make Turbos for gt's

8600 rpm killer!!!!!!
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stefanoc Apr 16, 6:41am - #155772 

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Originally Posted by Sid
is it possible to Turbo a GT?


its more possible to Turbo a gt cz it has less compression.
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RevMonster Apr 16, 7:17am - #155773 

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Originally Posted by Sid
is it possible to Turbo a GT?


You can Turbo any combustion engine. You can Turbo your lawnmower if you wanted. The real question is reliability.

There have been horror stories about the XS kit. Some of the others have seemingly had less complaints. Just like any mod, there is a chance something could go wrong if it's not done correctly.

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Lucky_317 Apr 16, 7:53pm - #155774 

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Originally Posted by jav8or
Originally Posted by Lucky_317
lol my teamates kit put down 250 whp with the stafford kit.
also the stafford kit works with the 03 DBW!

XS kit is not as strong and is very unreliable.

how much psi is he pushing and is he doing it on stock internals

stock internals smile
and no boost controller yet so hes stuck at 6 down low and 7.5 from 6500 - 8700 rpms. once we get it worked out he'll be running 8psi all the way.

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Rexy13 Apr 17, 8:56pm - #155775 
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Lucky_317 Apr 18, 4:40am - #155776 

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After another hour of tuning we almost hit 280 whp with the stafford kit. I'll post a new thread once he scans in the dyno sheet wink

the big diff between the XS and the SF kit is the SF kit uses stock ECU and the XS kit uses the power fc. SF kit + power FC = mad ownage smile

with the 250 whp tuning he ran 13.6 @ 3000 ft elevation. so he should be in the 12's easily with a good launch now smile

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eric_h Apr 18, 5:48am - #155777 

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yeah the gt is actually more potent to Turbo cause it has natural low compression which is desiarable to a FI car

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oas Apr 18, 7:04pm - #155778 
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Originally Posted by Sid
is it possible to Turbo a GT?

yes i saw one from a tuning shop it was 0-100 km/h in 6 sek
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DarkMatter Apr 19, 1:04am - #155779 

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
After another hour of tuning we almost hit 280 whp with the stafford kit. I'll post a new thread once he scans in the dyno sheet wink

the big diff between the XS and the SF kit is the SF kit uses stock ECU and the XS kit uses the power fc. SF kit + power FC = mad ownage smile

with the 250 whp tuning he ran 13.6 @ 3000 ft elevation. so he should be in the 12's easily with a good launch now smile


is this possible on an 03+. i'm asking because xs engi and pfc problems
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Lucky_317 Apr 19, 6:46am - #155780 

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the SF kit works on an 03 and no other kit to my knowledge does.

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Speed4TheNeed Apr 19, 11:32am - #155781 

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
the SF kit works on an 03 and no other kit to my knowledge does.


what's the difference? the engines are the same as well as the engine compartments to my knowledge.

sorry for the newb question.
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DarkMatter Apr 19, 2:53pm - #155782 

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i've been reading something about problems with xs engi + pfc conflicting with a cars drive by wire that are 03+

i know the sf Turbo will work on all years, but was wondering if the pfc will work too? since it won't work with the xs engi on 03+ cars..
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Lucky_317 Apr 19, 5:30pm - #155783 

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The big reason the XS kit cant work on an 03 is because of the power fc. the power fc cannot fit into an 03 and it doesnt control the DBW setup wink

Stafford was smart enough to design a base setup that would work on ANY year smile however we've already shown that with the power FC added the sf kit can put down more power then the xs kit thumbsup one more reason I stand behind the stafford kit.

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DarkMatter Apr 19, 5:57pm - #155784 

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sorry, but i still can't seem to find the answer i'm looking for frown

i know the stafford Turbo will work on any year model, but my question now is: will the stafford Turbo/pfc combo work on an 03+, or would it have the same problem with dbw as the xs.turbo/pfc combo?
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illsmokeu Apr 19, 6:20pm - #155785 
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
it's possible...and there are Turbo GTS'. There was a problem though with the Turbo's available at the time not being able to work on the '03+ celicas, due to Drive By Wire. Though I believe the SF Turbo for the GTS works for it as well.


Did XS fix this prob?
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Lucky_317 Apr 19, 8:54pm - #155786 

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The big reason the XS kit cant work on an 03 is because of the power fc. the power fc cannot fit into an 03 and it doesnt control the DBW setup


wave I answered your question. the power FC does not fit onto an 03 so how on earth could you have the power fc + Turbo?

thier base Turbo package DOES work on the 03 though cause they use the stock ECU thumbsup

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theretiredpimp Apr 19, 9:28pm - #155787 

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I wanna Turbo my GT...

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DarkMatter Apr 19, 9:52pm - #155788 

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Quote:
The big reason the XS kit cant work on an 03 is because of the power fc. the power fc cannot fit into an 03 and it doesnt control the DBW setup


wave I answered your question. the power FC does not fit onto an 03 so how on earth could you have the power fc + Turbo?

thier base Turbo package DOES work on the 03 though cause they use the stock ECU thumbsup [/quote]

thanks. sorry i'm sucha noob, but.. more questions, like always... i have an 04.. i'm sure you've already answered this twice, but i'm in denial.. the apexi PFC will not work on my 04 gts?

=(

what would i use for a boost controller if i get the sf Turbo?
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Lucky_317 Apr 19, 10:38pm - #155789 

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it should work with the 04 as long as it isnt the DBW like the 03. I honestly dont know cause I've never seen an 04 smile

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faran325 Apr 19, 11:15pm - #155790 

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So wierd how Toyota changes the Celica so us 03+ owners can't expericnce the power of the Turbo with a Power FC, or can we? Might have to call the company up one of these days to find out.
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