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5280vvti Apr 11, 5:27pm - #151379 

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GraSSRooTs Apr 11, 5:33pm - #151380 

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"5~20 Horsepower gain" for $129.95? Sounds like b/s to me...

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Originally Posted by GraSSRooTs
"5~20 Horsepower gain" for $129.95? Sounds like b/s to me...


you dont know what your talking about.



thats a great mod... however i never really thought OBX was quality... its the only company i know of that makes that though.
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idk...i don't think OBX is that reliable.

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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the only way you could possibly use one is on the exhaust cam since the Intake cam is controlled by vvti. And that may be only on the GT engine. Does the GTS use vvti on both cams?
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first off, i agree, i never new that they made those for our cars, is that right there bs, or is that really made for our cars?? And is that hp gain true or bs as well?? And if it is true, how does it give that much more HP??

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GraSSRooTs Apr 11, 5:40pm - #151385 

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
Originally Posted by GraSSRooTs
"5~20 Horsepower gain" for $129.95? Sounds like b/s to me...


you dont know what your talking about.



thats a great mod... however i never really thought OBX was quality... its the only company i know of that makes that though.


I wasn't saying the mod, dipshit, I was saying that I doubt it gets up to 20 horsepower.

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spaztikid Apr 11, 5:44pm - #151386 
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Originally Posted by GraSSRooTs

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"5~20 Horsepower gain" for $129.95? Sounds like b/s to me...


you dont know what your talking about.



thats a great mod... however i never really thought OBX was quality... its the only company i know of that makes that though.


I wasn't saying the mod, dipshit, I was saying that I doubt it gets up to 20 horsepower.


ya dipshit... and judging by your previous questions i can assume you dont know much about cars...

cam gears can yeild that much power, and those ones allow you to advance and retard timing.

retarding the timing will allow you to run bigger boost levels and spray more nitrous among many other tuning factors...

in an engine, the weight of internals make all the difference... and if those save 1 - 3 lbs of parasitic lag on the cams, they can for sure add upwards of 10 hp...
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
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"5~20 Horsepower gain" for $129.95? Sounds like b/s to me...


you dont know what your talking about.



thats a great mod... however i never really thought OBX was quality... its the only company i know of that makes that though.


I wasn't saying the mod, dipshit, I was saying that I doubt it gets up to 20 horsepower.


ya dipshit... and judging by your previous questions i can assume you dont know much about cars...

cam gears can yeild that much power, and those ones allow you to advance and retard timing.

retarding the timing will allow you to run bigger boost levels and spray more nitrous among many other tuning factors...

in an engine, the weight of internals make all the difference... and if those save 1 - 3 lbs of parasitic lag on the cams, they can for sure add upwards of 10 hp...


Why did you edit? Spend some more time using google?
And since you seem to love this mod so much, why don't you go out and buy it? Then tell us all about the 10+ hp you got from a mod you can purchase down at Circuit City. Vroom Vroom pussy...

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Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
first off, i agree, i never new that they made those for our cars, is that right there bs, or is that really made for our cars?? And is that hp gain true or bs as well?? And if it is true, how does it give that much more HP??


from what i know they alow you to manipulate your valve open and closeing timing

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Originally Posted by GraSSRooTs
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[quote=GraSSRooTs]"5~20 Horsepower gain" for $129.95? Sounds like b/s to me...


you dont know what your talking about.



thats a great mod... however i never really thought OBX was quality... its the only company i know of that makes that though.


I wasn't saying the mod, dipshit, I was saying that I doubt it gets up to 20 horsepower.


ya dipshit... and judging by your previous questions i can assume you dont know much about cars...

cam gears can yeild that much power, and those ones allow you to advance and retard timing.

retarding the timing will allow you to run bigger boost levels and spray more nitrous among many other tuning factors...

in an engine, the weight of internals make all the difference... and if those save 1 - 3 lbs of parasitic lag on the cams, they can for sure add upwards of 10 hp...


Why did you edit? Spend some more time using google?
And since you seem to love this mod so much, why don't you go out and buy it? Then tell us all about the 10+ hp you got from a mod you can purchase down at Circuit City. Vroom Vroom pussy... [/quote]

ok dood... all that came from my head, search on google, i wrote all of that personnaly, i edited to add more after i finished... the bold is what i added.

i'm done with you. fuck off.
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I don't know if that would make any HP maybe a couple with a lot of testing/ trial and error for our cars. I may be wrong, but don't our engines adjust that anyway? Advance or retard the timing. I found it cheaper for $70 here if you want to try it... tuningdepot
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ok all that ive heard about manipulating valve timing and retarding and advancing the valve timing. Now, wont this affect the vvt-i and vvtl-i?? So someone said about only on the exhaust this can be used, because vvt-i and vvtl-i controls the Intake cam...so why dont we stop the bs and really find out the info about this, besides the quality from the company, how about the gear itself??

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Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
ok all that ive heard about manipulating valve timing and retarding and advancing the valve timing. Now, wont this affect the vvt-i and vvtl-i?? So someone said about only on the exhaust this can be used, because vvt-i and vvtl-i controls the Intake cam...so why dont we stop the bs and really find out the info about this, besides the quality from the company, how about the gear itself??



if it saves weight, its a worthwile mod... i wouldnt advance or reatard timing with that... supposed to be up to ten degrees of advance or retard... but its inacurate.

for 129 is a good deal if the part is quality...

as far as adjusting the timing, i would go the rout of the PFC.
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
ok all that ive heard about manipulating valve timing and retarding and advancing the valve timing. Now, wont this affect the vvt-i and vvtl-i?? So someone said about only on the exhaust this can be used, because vvt-i and vvtl-i controls the Intake cam...so why dont we stop the bs and really find out the info about this, besides the quality from the company, how about the gear itself??



if it saves weight, its a worthwile mod... i wouldnt advance or reatard timing with that... supposed to be up to ten degrees of advance or retard... but its inacurate.

for 129 is a good deal if the part is quality...

as far as adjusting the timing, i would go the rout of the PFC.


so your saying that it should be bought just for weight issues, but as far as tuning, you shouldnt mess with it and just leave it up to the PFC to do the tuning with?? Then why doesnt some company make only lighter sprocket gears without the ability to advance or retard the valve timing?

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theretiredpimp Apr 11, 6:22pm - #151394 

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Some need to go out, get it, test it on their car and then post results. That way we'll see if there is a significant gain or not.

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Originally Posted by qbanprepster21
Originally Posted by spaztikid
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ok all that ive heard about manipulating valve timing and retarding and advancing the valve timing. Now, wont this affect the vvt-i and vvtl-i?? So someone said about only on the exhaust this can be used, because vvt-i and vvtl-i controls the Intake cam...so why dont we stop the bs and really find out the info about this, besides the quality from the company, how about the gear itself??



if it saves weight, its a worthwile mod... i wouldnt advance or reatard timing with that... supposed to be up to ten degrees of advance or retard... but its inacurate.

for 129 is a good deal if the part is quality...

as far as adjusting the timing, i would go the rout of the PFC.


so your saying that it should be bought just for weight issues, but as far as tuning, you shouldnt mess with it and just leave it up to the PFC to do the tuning with?? Then why doesnt some company make only lighter sprocket gears without the ability to advance or retard the valve timing?



thats the lack of aftermarket support we have with our cars...

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that is true, there is a big lack of support for our cars, hopefully, someone will kick thereselves in the ass and do something about it, oh well, thanks for the info though!!

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i doubt they are going to do anything.

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5280vvti Apr 11, 7:10pm - #151398 

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Wow thanks for the posts guys! Thanks Spatz. It sounds like its a worthwhile mod, especially since we can get it for only $70 (cheaper than AEM pulley). Now all I'm worried about is the quality of OBX products...

How would the install on the sprocket be?

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Oh yeah and one more thing... would we only have to order on eor two confused
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Originally Posted by 5280vvti

Oh yeah and one more thing... would we only have to order on eor two confused


it would come with two...


but i wouldnt put OBX on my car.
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
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Oh yeah and one more thing... would we only have to order on eor two confused


it would come with two...


but i wouldnt put OBX on my car.


That bad huh? frown
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Originally Posted by 5280vvti
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Oh yeah and one more thing... would we only have to order on eor two confused


it would come with two...


but i wouldnt put OBX on my car.


That bad huh? frown


i dont really know OBX... if its not tried and tested i'm not gonna waste my money and time and risk my engine for it.
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Anybody want to be a ginny-pig? grin Only $70 I would probably do it but I don't have the money for the install right now frown ----> College + no job + girlfriend = 0 $$$
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get AEM or something...
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Originally Posted by XplodCelica0708
get AEM or something...


AEM doesn't make cam sprockets at all, let alone for the celica frown
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Anybody actually have any experience with OBX? Like with their fuel rails or anything?
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Originally Posted by 5280vvti
Originally Posted by XplodCelica0708
get AEM or something...


AEM doesn't make cam sprockets at all, let alone for the celica frown


they do make them, but not for the celi

http://aempower.com/product_cam.asp
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
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get AEM or something...


AEM doesn't make cam sprockets at all, let alone for the celica frown


they do make them, but not for the celi

http://aempower.com/product_cam.asp


Lol, oh man I new they made those too :shakeshead: oh well, me need more sleepy spineyes THNX for the correction btw smile
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Originally Posted by 5280vvti
Anybody actually have any experiance with OBX? Like with their fuel rails or anything?


i have there short shifter .. minus the hideuse knob and lack of instructions it works great

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i'll guinea pig it if i understood where it went and really wat it does other that retard timing. i love anything that will give me more power.

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If you get into tech data on the gts youll see we have a timing chain not belt which is prolly cause the gts engine was built in conjunction with yamaha. Most toyotas have belts such as the gt. Also the ad you posted said n/a next to celica sorry .
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Also timing is controlled electronically
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Originally Posted by trdcelicafreak
If you get into tech data on the gts youll see we have a timing chain not belt which is prolly cause the gts engine was built in conjunction with yamaha. Most toyotas have belts such as the gt. Also the ad you posted said n/a next to celica sorry .


All of the apps have N/A next to it, its for color.
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Originally Posted by round2gts
i'll guinea pig it if i understood where it went and really wat it does other that retard timing. i love anything that will give me more power.


What Spatzkid was saying is to not adjust the sprocket at all, and that merely the lighter weight on the sprocket itself would be greatly beneficial. Less weight on a cam sprocket does seem like it would make a pretty large difference imo
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YEah, just adjust it, so that it stays the same size as the stock sprocket, then just use it for weight issues, like it was said, the less weight, might take away some of the parastitic effects, thus not adding more hp, but getting more hp out of the engine, might work, so question still stands...Guinea pigs anyone??

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i'll guinea pig it if i understood where it went and really wat it does other that retard timing. i love anything that will give me more power.


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some interesting info on vvti
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Originally Posted by 5280vvti
Originally Posted by spaztikid
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Originally Posted by XplodCelica0708
get AEM or something...


AEM doesn't make cam sprockets at all, let alone for the celica frown


they do make them, but not for the celi

http://aempower.com/product_cam.asp


Lol, oh man I new they made those too :shakeshead: oh well, me need more sleepy spineyes THNX for the correction btw smile
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"There are two engines that commonly use the VVTL-i system, the 1ZZ-FE/2ZZ-GE" wtf Not quite wink

Anyway that's still a really good site! Makes me want to go drive my car. Makes it sound powerful to grin
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Those are only useful with aftermarket cams, something that isn't made for the Celica (yet).
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Originally Posted by silver

Those are only useful with aftermarket cams, something that isn't made for the Celica (yet).


They are made for the GT smile http://www.catcams.be/800x600/prod01Alist.htm?PN71005xx.js
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