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Which one is shorter? #148076 Apr 7, 8:33pm Apr 7, 8:33pm
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Which one is shorter?
which shifter is shorter? grin B&M or TWM? its for GTS...thanks.

Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: Sparty] #148077 Apr 7, 8:35pm Apr 7, 8:35pm
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damn, sorry, thought it was a general discussion...sorry everyone

Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: Sparty] #148078 Apr 7, 9:16pm Apr 7, 9:16pm
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TWM is the shortest...

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Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: Sparty] #148079 Apr 8, 5:44am Apr 8, 5:44am

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Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: Sparty] #148080 Apr 8, 5:52am Apr 8, 5:52am
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TWM, but B&M has shorter throws. spineyes


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Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: DiabloGTS] #148081 Apr 8, 6:22am Apr 8, 6:22am
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
TWM, but B&M has shorter throws. spineyes


how?

Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: KULOD] #148082 Apr 8, 6:24am Apr 8, 6:24am
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Originally Posted by KULOD
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
TWM, but B&M has shorter throws. spineyes


how?


Because a shifter being shorter doesn't really mean shorter throws, you have to change the fulcrom point of the lever to make them shorter.

This is why people with cut rods are stupid, because it doesn't do anything. You have to change the fulcrom in order to change the leverage and the length of the shifts.


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Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: Sparty] #148083 Apr 8, 6:25am Apr 8, 6:25am
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Levers

A lever is a simple machine that magnifies force. Levers are comprised of a rigid bar (lever arm) a pivot point (fulcrum), a load force, and an effort force. The effort force creates a torque around the fulcrum. The magnitude of this torque is dependant on the magnitude of the force and its distance from the fulcrum. This torque must be balanced by the torque created by the load force. Changing he distance from the fulcrum to the load force changes the amount of force magnification.



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Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: Sparty] #148084 Apr 8, 8:05am Apr 8, 8:05am
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physics 101

Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: Sparty] #148085 Apr 8, 9:00am Apr 8, 9:00am
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lol... physics grin
the reason im looking for the shortest is that i want it to look really really short grin dunno why... but do you think there is a big difference between TWM and B&M in the throw perfomance?

Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: Sparty] #148086 Apr 8, 4:14pm Apr 8, 4:14pm
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Originally Posted by Sparty
lol... physics grin
the reason im looking for the shortest is that i want it to look really really short grin dunno why... but do you think there is a big difference between TWM and B&M in the throw perfomance?


i have twm and i can tell you its 10 times better then stock, cant speak for b&m though...


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Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: DiabloGTS] #148087 Apr 8, 4:20pm Apr 8, 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by KULOD
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TWM, but B&M has shorter throws. spineyes


how?


Because a shifter being shorter doesn't really mean shorter throws, you have to change the fulcrom point of the lever to make them shorter.

This is why people with cut rods are stupid, because it doesn't do anything. You have to change the fulcrom in order to change the leverage and the length of the shifts.


true...

i didn't know B&M had the shorter throw...i like B&M, i need to get it.


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Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: VSGTS14] #148088 Apr 8, 4:39pm Apr 8, 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by KULOD
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
TWM, but B&M has shorter throws. spineyes


how?


Because a shifter being shorter doesn't really mean shorter throws, you have to change the fulcrom point of the lever to make them shorter.

This is why people with cut rods are stupid, because it doesn't do anything. You have to change the fulcrom in order to change the leverage and the length of the shifts.


true...

i didn't know B&M had the shorter throw...i like B&M, i need to get it.


i would have to recommend twm thumbsup


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Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: eric_h] #148089 Apr 8, 9:13pm Apr 8, 9:13pm
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Stock the GTS shifter is rough...how rough is it with the SS?

Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: Sparty] #148090 Apr 8, 10:06pm Apr 8, 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by Sparty
lol... physics grin
the reason im looking for the shortest is that i want it to look really really short grin dunno why... but do you think there is a big difference between TWM and B&M in the throw perfomance?

Here is TWM:

1869924326-TWM SHORT SHIFTER $124.jpg
Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: RoMkApOmKa] #148091 Apr 8, 10:08pm Apr 8, 10:08pm
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And here is the stock :

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Re: Which one is shorter? [Re: RoMkApOmKa] #148092 Apr 8, 10:11pm Apr 8, 10:11pm
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I'm still waiting for someone to buy a S/S, then chop off like three inches so that the shifter is almost level with the console.


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