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one last underglow question #145291 Apr 5, 3:10am Apr 5, 3:10am
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one last underglow question
Ive got everything hooked up now with all connections going straight to the battery, not through any fuse box. What would i have to do to get them to flash when the car is locked/unlocked but still have control over them with the switch in the cabin?


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Re: one last underglow question [Re: csheriff] #145293 Apr 5, 4:55am Apr 5, 4:55am
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come on bro...it's only been a little over an hour & it's the early morning..we only have 117 ppl on.

Re: one last underglow question [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #145294 Apr 5, 5:07am Apr 5, 5:07am
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
come on bro...it's only been a little over an hour & it's the early morning..we only have 117 ppl on.
point being...i can only be on early in the morning so i try to get responces asap.


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i can offer a guess..i'm reall not familiar with wiring all that much.

anyway, if you can figure (or someone else can figure) out how your alarm attaches to your lights (i'm assuming it blinks the headlights as most alarms do), then you should follow a similar path.

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You would have to splice into the brake wires. But they would only be on when you hit the break.


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Re: one last underglow question [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #145297 Apr 5, 5:22am Apr 5, 5:22am
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
i can offer a guess..i'm reall not familiar with wiring all that much.

anyway, if you can figure (or someone else can figure) out how your alarm attaches to your lights (i'm assuming it blinks the headlights as most alarms do), then you should follow a similar path.
yeah i figured it was something like that but im not all that familiar with wiring either. by the way, its the vip3000 or whatever toyotas top alarm is.


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Originally Posted by celicatalbot
You would have to splice into the brake wires. But they would only be on when you hit the break.
huh?????????????? where did brakes come into the topic??


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Originally Posted by csheriff
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You would have to splice into the brake wires. But they would only be on when you hit the break.
huh?????????????? where did brakes come into the topic??


he thinks your talking about taillights, not headlights.

(obviously headlights are not connected with the brake lights)

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Splice off the headlight flash wire, install a diode so that when you select neon on you dont get parking lights, through a swith to the neons...make sure you get a fuse in the line between neon and battery, closer to batt the better.

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It can be done, this may be long but the problem is i don't know the exact wiring in your alarm so i suggest searching for the wiring diagram or something...

First off you are going to create a (negative/positive) switch meaning that between the (negative/positive) wire the neons use for (negative/positive) you will place the switch. Okay, after the switch is out of the way you will have to tap into the alarm's parking light flash output and have that wire run to any part of the wire before the switch reaches it, and that should be it. It all depends if your alarm's light flash output is negative and positive. Im willin to draw a diagram for you since the above is hard to understand but find out where your alarm is located and if the alarm's light flash output is either negative or positive, okay.

hope i have helped
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Originally Posted by ravertony
It can be done, this may be long but the problem is i don't know the exact wiring in your alarm so i suggest searching for the wiring diagram or something...

First off you are going to create a (negative/positive) switch meaning that between the (negative/positive) wire the neons use for (negative/positive) you will place the switch. Okay, after the switch is out of the way you will have to tap into the alarm's parking light flash output and have that wire run to any part of the wire before the switch reaches it, and that should be it. It all depends if your alarm's light flash output is negative and positive. Im willin to draw a diagram for you since the above is hard to understand but find out where your alarm is located and if the alarm's light flash output is either negative or positive, okay.

hope i have helped
tony
the alarm is located in the kick panel by drivers left leg. im i gonna figure out the polarity by the color of the wires?? does anybody have a wiring diagram of the toyota alarms?


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Originally Posted by DoubleTap
Splice off the headlight flash wire, install a diode so that when you select neon on you dont get parking lights, through a swith to the neons...make sure you get a fuse in the line between neon and battery, closer to batt the better.
i almost understood that.


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yea im in electronics and that shit lost me

only way you can go the route with the headlights is if you use a timed relay (can get from radio shack) then this goes between the neon and the battery (which should have a fuse) and a wire from parking lights to the relay

so when the parking lights flash it turns the relay on for that preset amount of time (only a couple of seconds) and giving you the light when arm disarm car

thoguh they will also turn on for that time when you turn your headlights on but you cant get past that


there is other ways to do it but i would go this way


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im looking for the relays now casue i might have to do this now lol
this would work
http://www.smarthome.com/7279.html 22$


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http://www.drdetailshop.com/528T.htm 29$ this would be better


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Re: one last underglow question [Re: drkramm] #145307 Apr 5, 11:53am Apr 5, 11:53am
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i hate automotive wiring. just the word relay gives me a headache. ill tell you what, if you actually decide to do it, take pictures and notes and then maybe ill do it. 4 right now, im saying fuck it.


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okay, when you hit the alarm dis/arm, the parking and head light flash, right? Now, there is plenty of current there to run neons (neons are low current devices). So install a splice from the line that flashes those lights to your neons. Now, this would result in turning your parking/head lights every time you turned the neons on. So, you install a "Diode" (two-element device that permits current flow in one direction only) (think LED without the light-emitting part) to allow current to only flow from the parking lights to the neons, not vice-versa. That will make the neons flash in time with the alrm flash (and any other time your parking lights flash)
Then you simply add a switch to the neon (+) line to turn the neons on/off without turning the parking/headlights on/off.
I could post a basic wiring diagram, but I dont really know how to post it here. As for finding which is ground and which is hot, buy a multi-meter ($20). Great for all electrical work.

If you hate automotive wiring, try aviation wiring. We have everything drom 12VDC to three phase 115 volt AC to deal with.

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I took the time to draw a diagram if the flash output from the alarm is negative and if you find out its a positive output just change all the negatives to positive and vice versa on the diagram. You will need a diode in this setup to prevent your neon switch from turning on your parking lights. By the way, place special attention to the stripe on the diode in the diagram. Its important if you know how diodes work. For info on diodes go to http://www.the12volt.com/diodes/diodes.asp it will help.


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Originally Posted by ravertony
I took the time to draw a diagram if the flash output from the alarm is negative and if you find out its a positive output just change all the negatives to positive and vice versa on the diagram. You will need a diode in this setup to prevent your neon switch from turning on your parking lights. By the way, place special attention to the stripe on the diode in the diagram. Its important if you know how diodes work. For info on diodes go to http://www.the12volt.com/diodes/diodes.asp it will help.


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thanx tony, really appreciate the help. didnt actually expect anybody to sit down and make a diagram for me. im pretty sick right now but ill do that as soon as i feel better. thanx again.


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Originally Posted by DoubleTap
okay, when you hit the alarm dis/arm, the parking and head light flash, right? Now, there is plenty of current there to run neons (neons are low current devices). So install a splice from the line that flashes those lights to your neons. Now, this would result in turning your parking/head lights every time you turned the neons on. So, you install a "Diode" (two-element device that permits current flow in one direction only) (think LED without the light-emitting part) to allow current to only flow from the parking lights to the neons, not vice-versa. That will make the neons flash in time with the alrm flash (and any other time your parking lights flash)
Then you simply add a switch to the neon (+) line to turn the neons on/off without turning the parking/headlights on/off.
I could post a basic wiring diagram, but I dont really know how to post it here. As for finding which is ground and which is hot, buy a multi-meter ($20). Great for all electrical work.

If you hate automotive wiring, try aviation wiring. We have everything drom 12VDC to three phase 115 volt AC to deal with.

pretty much how i made my fog lamps flash when i hit my arm/disarm

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hmm...wat is you want to control the lights with your alarm remote. i know some remotes have some extra features, like how i have for the remote trunk. so how do we do that? use my remote trunk button to turn on the neons? because you know, we can't use automatic trunk open when it's a hatch. do i just find the extra aux wire? or just find the trunk wire? and do i use a diode? confused

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Originally Posted by ONEugene

hmm...wat is you want to control the lights with your alarm remote. i know some remotes have some extra features, like how i have for the remote trunk. so how do we do that? use my remote trunk button to turn on the neons? because you know, we can't use automatic trunk open when it's a hatch. do i just find the extra aux wire? or just find the trunk wire? and do i use a diode? confused


The guy above wanted his neons to flash with his parkin lights but your talkin about remote control and your on the right path my friend. thumbsup I have a remote start with exra remote features like the pop trunk thing and you are right about our trunks are hatch so we cant use it so instead you can use it for something else like neons. I did it myself and its pretty sweet grin to be able to turn your neons on and off with a remote.

Yeah find out which wire the aux/remote trunk is at on your alarm and the polarity (+/-) and connect it according to the polarity so if your aux wire is (-) connect it to the neons ground wire and the positive wire from the neon should go to a power source. But remember you will need a diode if you want to have a switch in your car besides the remote and you may need a relay if the alarms output is too weak. Diodes and relays cost around a dollar so i'd say this a mod to go for. If you want more help PM me.

Tony

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thanks tony. thumbsup

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