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when do you shift when racing? #145022 Apr 4, 7:16pm Apr 4, 7:16pm
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when do you shift when racing?
what rpm do shift every gear at when you're racing in a 2000 Celica GT.

Re: when do you shift when racing? #145023 Apr 4, 7:18pm Apr 4, 7:18pm
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at fuel cutoff

not sure what that is in a gt, do a 'search'. (i drive a gts, sorry)

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Re: when do you shift when racing? #145025 Apr 4, 7:44pm Apr 4, 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by Celica2k
what rpm do shift every gear at when you're racing in a 2000 Celica GT.

about 8350


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Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: My Sixth Gear] #145026 Apr 4, 7:47pm Apr 4, 7:47pm
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Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
Originally Posted by Celica2k
what rpm do shift every gear at when you're racing in a 2000 Celica GT.

about 8350


hes asking about GT wave
maybe 7350?

Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: stefanoc] #145027 Apr 4, 8:55pm Apr 4, 8:55pm
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Racing straight line it's the redline. Racing twisties, I stay in the power band as much as possible even if it hurts to do so. I drive a GTS also so can not fully comment.

Re: when do you shift when racing? #145028 Apr 4, 10:21pm Apr 4, 10:21pm
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Re: when do you shift when racing? #145029 Apr 5, 12:56am Apr 5, 12:56am
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Redline, which is approx 6.800 - 7.000 in a GT... I guess rolleyes


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Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: marajade] #145030 Apr 5, 4:45am Apr 5, 4:45am
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when it reaches red line

Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: eric_h] #145031 Apr 5, 6:26am Apr 5, 6:26am
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Originally Posted by eric_h
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actually..as i've already said..it's fuel cutoff. this will give you the fastest times.

the longer you can spin a smaller gear the faster you will accelerate.


Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #145032 Apr 5, 11:49am Apr 5, 11:49am
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
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actually..as i've already said..it's fuel cutoff. this will give you the fastest times.

the longer you can spin a smaller gear the faster you will accelerate.



but then when it comes to a point that you lose power, and you can see that the gear that follows gives more hp at lower rpm then the gear that is high revving. well, if not on stock ecu, then on modified.

Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #145033 Apr 5, 11:55am Apr 5, 11:55am
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by eric_h
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actually..as i've already said..it's fuel cutoff. this will give you the fastest times.

the longer you can spin a smaller gear the faster you will accelerate.



thats not true... your supposed to shift so that you land in your peak RPM's for the powerband... with celica's its redline... some other cars are faster when you shift below redline.

Re: when do you shift when racing? #145034 Apr 5, 12:25pm Apr 5, 12:25pm
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Man, people need to race the GT more.

The answer is simple 6400rpm, thats peek in a GT. DO NOT bounce of the redline, its not a GTS and you loose power doing that.

You'll feel it when you hit it right, very smooth pull.

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i moved my fuel cut when i had my gt and i was shifting at 9k... but i dont have my gt anymore cause something was wrong with it...hmm

Re: when do you shift when racing? #145036 Apr 5, 7:39pm Apr 5, 7:39pm
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the very first time i raced was with my gts and i raced a friend who has a gt, both manual. he got a big lead because i suck at the takeoff and did not get it right. I had to push the car into the red to beat him (yeah, almost lost) the driver of the gt said he was shifting at his red. my second run i raced a civic with a gsr engine and even with a better launch i lost, this time i did not pass the red, had i another 100ft i would have past him (he beat me by like .03, had a better e.t. though this time) *the powerband changes when you add Intake etc. I was always told to shift below the redline to avoid throwing a rod. haven't raced since but would like to know when to shift a gts, I have AEM CAI only


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Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: spaztikid] #145037 Apr 5, 7:43pm Apr 5, 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by eric_h
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actually..as i've already said..it's fuel cutoff. this will give you the fastest times.

the longer you can spin a smaller gear the faster you will accelerate.



thats not true... your supposed to shift so that you land in your peak RPM's for the powerband... with celica's its redline... some other cars are faster when you shift below redline.


with a celica gts, its fuel cutoff (it's all about lift)

in a gt, it doenst have lift but you should still shift at fuel cutoff. the celica gt still has a 1.8L engine that produces minimal torque and the powerband is high in the rpms. so the higher you shift, the closer you will land to your best powerband thumbsup

Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: celicagtshawaii] #145038 Apr 5, 7:44pm Apr 5, 7:44pm
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Originally Posted by celicagtshawaii
the very first time i raced was with my gts and i raced a friend who has a gt, both manual. he got a big lead because i suck at the takeoff and did not get it right. I had to push the car into the red to beat him (yeah, almost lost) the driver of the gt said he was shifting at his red. my second run i raced a civic with a gsr engine and even with a better launch i lost, this time i did not pass the red, had i another 100ft i would have past him (he beat me by like .03, had a better e.t. though this time) *the powerband changes when you add Intake etc. I was always told to shift below the redline to avoid throwing a rod. haven't raced since but would like to know when to shift a gts, I have AEM CAI only

8350


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Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: My Sixth Gear] #145039 Apr 5, 7:49pm Apr 5, 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
Originally Posted by celicagtshawaii
the very first time i raced was with my gts and i raced a friend who has a gt, both manual. he got a big lead because i suck at the takeoff and did not get it right. I had to push the car into the red to beat him (yeah, almost lost) the driver of the gt said he was shifting at his red. my second run i raced a civic with a gsr engine and even with a better launch i lost, this time i did not pass the red, had i another 100ft i would have past him (he beat me by like .03, had a better e.t. though this time) *the powerband changes when you add Intake etc. I was always told to shift below the redline to avoid throwing a rod. haven't raced since but would like to know when to shift a gts, I have AEM CAI only

8350


if you drive a gts...def race at fuel cutoff. i've raced at a track and it's faster that way. others have raced at tracks and have done better that way.

the fuel cutoff is there so you don't blow your engine. the redline is there to tell you not to DRIVE in the redline..going there for a few seconds won't hurt it anymore than driving hard up to the redline.

Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: Gen7fan] #145040 Apr 5, 7:51pm Apr 5, 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Man, people need to race the GT more.

The answer is simple 6400rpm, thats peek in a GT. DO NOT bounce of the redline, its not a GTS and you loose power doing that.

You'll feel it when you hit it right, very smooth pull.


yeah but if you shift below the redlines your gonna drop below your powerband if you do shift at redline it should drop right about where its making the most power, to me that sounds best


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Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: eric_h] #145041 Apr 5, 10:09pm Apr 5, 10:09pm
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if you have GTS shift at 8350 unless you have power FC.. nuff said


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Re: when do you shift when racing? [Re: eric_h] #145044 Apr 6, 1:51pm Apr 6, 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by eric_h
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Man, people need to race the GT more.

The answer is simple 6400rpm, thats peek in a GT. DO NOT bounce of the redline, its not a GTS and you loose power doing that.

You'll feel it when you hit it right, very smooth pull.


yeah but if you shift below the redlines your gonna drop below your powerband if you do shift at redline it should drop right about where its making the most power, to me that sounds best



I understand what your saying, IMO you should drag the clutch just a little to avoid that. If you granny shift then I agree with you 100%. I find that smashing the redline hurts more than it helps, but every driver is different.

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for the moment at 3000 rpm

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Originally Posted by oas
for the moment at 3000 rpm


wtf spineyes confused

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it stop akkselerate at 3000 rpm frown

Re: when do you shift when racing? #145048 Apr 7, 10:24am Apr 7, 10:24am
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Re: when do you shift when racing? #145049 Apr 7, 6:08pm Apr 7, 6:08pm
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ok so redline then shift. so in a GT what rpm should you hold at to launch?

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Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Originally Posted by eric_h
Originally Posted by Gen7fan
Man, people need to race the GT more.

The answer is simple 6400rpm, thats peek in a GT. DO NOT bounce of the redline, its not a GTS and you loose power doing that.

You'll feel it when you hit it right, very smooth pull.


yeah but if you shift below the redlines your gonna drop below your powerband if you do shift at redline it should drop right about where its making the most power, to me that sounds best



I understand what your saying, IMO you should drag the clutch just a little to avoid that. If you granny shift then I agree with you 100%. I find that smashing the redline hurts more than it helps, but every driver is different.


i suppose shifting before redline would be possible if your good, percise, and have the help of a SS(man i love those things)


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probably a stupid question but what's a SS?

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Originally Posted by Celica2k
probably a stupid question but what's a SS?


short shifter, one of my favorite modifications, its especially nice for driving around town your arm doesnt get tired


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Re: when do you shift when racing? #145053 Apr 8, 9:40am Apr 8, 9:40am
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Re: when do you shift when racing? #145054 Apr 8, 3:14pm Apr 8, 3:14pm
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I think peak torque in a GT is somethig right around 5,000 rpm, I try to shift around 6,400 rpm when I'm racing, and stay pretty steady as for picking up speed...but that's when I'm on a straight, if you are doing auto cross or taking a track day on a circuit course (its soooo much fun in a celi), I'd shift around 5,500 rpm, and you'll be able to pick it up out of the corners

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