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Apr 28, 1:22pm - #13954 
Engine Braces

Hi everyone,
If anyone belongs to newcelica.org they already know me. My name is Matt and I have created an engine torque brace for the 7th Gen. Celica.

Basically, the brace helps out in a lot of ways.
1. gives smoother shifting.
2. better initial power transfer
3. saves engine mounts from excess wear from hard driving.

Pictures are here: the brace
These have been installed on at least 50 Celicas and some people have dropped as much as .2 secs. off of their 1/4 mile times.

I was wondering if anyone is interested in these from this forum. I am not a business, I made one of these for my car and people on NC.org asked me to make more.

Please feel free to start up a discussion on these and let me know if there are any questions. Also feel free to PM me if you decide you want one.

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Apr 28, 1:35pm - #13955 
Hey matt, I bought one off of you on nc.org under the name "xkrnplayboyx." Your product is great and really helped smooth out my shifts.

I recommend this to all 7th generation celica owners!
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Apr 28, 1:49pm - #13956 
Does it just attach in existing places?
Is it only for the one side?

And lastly HOW MUCH?


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Apr 28, 2:07pm - #13957 
one end attaches to the strut tower thru a hole that already exists and the other end attaches to 1 of the 2 passenger side engine mounts.

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Apr 28, 2:25pm - #13958 
Steven it looks as if the strut tower side is mounted with rubber is this the case?


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Apr 28, 2:35pm - #13959 
ya matt, how much is this? im very interested, i have heard nothing but good things from the guys on NC.org


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Apr 28, 2:36pm - #13960 
just wanted to make sure these will work on a GTS? also about how much would you let them go for?

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Apr 28, 3:42pm - #13961 
i bought one from him as well, it was $56bucks
and it works great.and it is for gts

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Apr 28, 3:42pm - #13962 
yes it will fit the GTS and the GT. Auto or Manual, it fits them all.

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Apr 28, 4:25pm - #13963 
so how do we order it for droping ur 1/4 mike time by .2 and only costing less than 70 buck im verry interested how difficult is it to install thumbsup


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Apr 28, 5:14pm - #13964 
how much shipped to toronto, ontario, canada?
how hard is the install?
and can i get a group discounted rate if i set up a canadian group buy?

check your pm matt at nc thumbsup

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Apr 28, 5:15pm - #13965 
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Apr 28, 5:42pm - #13966 
im gonna get me one! goodjob


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Apr 28, 6:45pm - #13967 
Sorry guys, I was out most of the evening. Thanks to some of the guys who have bought these in answering some of the questions.

Price on these is $56.00 shipped in the US
$61.00USD shipped to Canada
I also ship worldwide just need your postal code for pricing.

I do group buys to same loction if someone wants to get them together, shipping is much cheaper that way. i just need a heads up when you get one so I can make them. I'm only a one man crew and I need time to make them.

The brace fits both GT and GTS.
You only need one.

I take paypal and money order.
PM me with order info or questions.
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Apr 28, 6:48pm - #13968 
everyone should get one

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Apr 28, 6:55pm - #13969 
what sort of gains do they give you? Why don't they come with one stock if it's so cheap and improves engine life and power?


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Apr 28, 7:14pm - #13970 
Is there any way to reduce that vibration noise that I have read about?

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Apr 28, 10:54pm - #13971 
this is the brash boy version,but they charge $250!!!thats a lot for a little brace!
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Apr 29, 4:58am - #13972 
Basically, the reason cars don't come stock with them is the same reason cars don't come with a CAI. It cost more, makes more noise and the average person doesn't want/need it.

As for the vibration reduction. The only way to do that is to have a set up like the brashboy setup above. But look at the price!!!

For $56 you get all of the performance a little noise and a whole lot less cost. Basically this is the thinking behind the brace. I could make one like theirs but the price would be that high.

As any performance mod you sacrifice a little comfort for some performance.

The gains from the brace are smoother shifting, quicker throttle response, less bogging in corners, less engine mount wear.

The down side is slight vibration at idle, and a low level gear whine. (drowned out by a radio, talking, or wind noise, it's that low level.)

Just a side note on the brashboy setup. notice anything missing on the car--hint--cruise control. You have to remove the cruise to install theirs. My brace is direct bolt-on with no removal of stock components.

Also the front beam of the Celica is very weak and will not hold up to stress of a brace pulling against it constantly.

My brace is rear mount(shock tower) a very strong point on the car.

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Apr 29, 7:42am - #13973 
sounds like you have a good design thumbsup


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Apr 29, 8:05am - #13974 
The first week I had it installed was rattling. It sounded like a damn supercharger... it winded up harmonically with the engine rpm. It's been like 3 weeks since i installed it and the vibration noise is gone or BARELY noticeable.

I have nothing but good things to say about Matt's product. One thing that drastically improved was the shifting. It is not only easier to shift but it makes shifting smoother. Passengers say my shifting is quite smooth now. grin

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Originally posted by Grand-Touring-Dan:
Is there any way to reduce that vibration noise that I have read about?


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Apr 29, 11:45am - #13975 
Houston people, look in the Group buy forum for a group buy on this product. Act quickly because I want this badly.

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Apr 29, 11:57am - #13976 
How easy is it to install ... like time wise ?

I gunna seriously think about this.

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Apr 30, 12:12am - #13977 
If you are technically inclined and ambidexterous about 20 min. If you can't handle a wrench and need to wait for a friend to help hold the bolts one one side while you do the nuts on the other. About 1-1/2 hours.

The install isn't hard just time consuming because you don't have a lot of room to work.
Especially if you have big hands like me. Thumb to pinky is a 10in span thumbsup . Tight fit in the little engine bay.

You may want to invest in a telescoping magnet to retrieve bolts that you drop on the install. grin

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Apr 30, 12:24am - #13978 
O.K. I just had the first interested person here on this board PM me. What I'm going to do is post over on the For Sale formum with all of the payment info and keep a list updated so eveyone can see where their order stands.

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Apr 30, 12:29am - #13979 
Also, do the install when the engine is cold or as warm as you can take it. Since your hand will be touching or very close to the valve cover, your hand will get burnt.

If you insist on doing the install when the motor is too warm to touch, put a towel over it and cover as much as possible and you'll be just fine. (that's what I did)

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Apr 30, 12:42am - #13980 
How would it help an automatic?


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Apr 30, 12:47am - #13981 
Autos get the same effects as do manuals, and possibly more do to the horrible engine mounts used in the autos.


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Apr 29, 6:59pm - #13982 
Just one more question ... is there any drilling required or does it just use holes that are already there if so what exactly are we unbolting ? Thanks

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Apr 30, 4:49am - #13983 
No drilling.
You unbolt the engine mount
(gets rebolted to brace)

Removing a wire clip for wiring harness
(not needed)

Utilizing existing bolt in shocktower.


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