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Engine Braces #13954 Apr 28, 1:22pm Apr 28, 1:22pm
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Engine Braces
Hi everyone,
If anyone belongs to newcelica.org they already know me. My name is Matt and I have created an engine torque brace for the 7th Gen. Celica.

Basically, the brace helps out in a lot of ways.
1. gives smoother shifting.
2. better initial power transfer
3. saves engine mounts from excess wear from hard driving.

Pictures are here: the brace
These have been installed on at least 50 Celicas and some people have dropped as much as .2 secs. off of their 1/4 mile times.

I was wondering if anyone is interested in these from this forum. I am not a business, I made one of these for my car and people on NC.org asked me to make more.

Please feel free to start up a discussion on these and let me know if there are any questions. Also feel free to PM me if you decide you want one.

Thanks
Matt


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: killerm] #13955 Apr 28, 1:35pm Apr 28, 1:35pm
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Hey matt, I bought one off of you on nc.org under the name "xkrnplayboyx." Your product is great and really helped smooth out my shifts.

I recommend this to all 7th generation celica owners!
goodjob thumbsup

Re: Engine Braces [Re: Steven] #13956 Apr 28, 1:49pm Apr 28, 1:49pm
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Does it just attach in existing places?
Is it only for the one side?

And lastly HOW MUCH?


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: CID498] #13957 Apr 28, 2:07pm Apr 28, 2:07pm
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one end attaches to the strut tower thru a hole that already exists and the other end attaches to 1 of the 2 passenger side engine mounts.

Re: Engine Braces [Re: Steven] #13958 Apr 28, 2:25pm Apr 28, 2:25pm
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Steven it looks as if the strut tower side is mounted with rubber is this the case?


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: CID498] #13959 Apr 28, 2:35pm Apr 28, 2:35pm
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ya matt, how much is this? im very interested, i have heard nothing but good things from the guys on NC.org


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: dontmesswithkram] #13960 Apr 28, 2:36pm Apr 28, 2:36pm
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just wanted to make sure these will work on a GTS? also about how much would you let them go for?

Re: Engine Braces [Re: generic] #13961 Apr 28, 3:42pm Apr 28, 3:42pm
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i bought one from him as well, it was $56bucks
and it works great.and it is for gts

Re: Engine Braces [Re: ajayn] #13962 Apr 28, 3:42pm Apr 28, 3:42pm
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yes it will fit the GTS and the GT. Auto or Manual, it fits them all.

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Re: Engine Braces [Re: Steven] #13963 Apr 28, 4:25pm Apr 28, 4:25pm
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so how do we order it for droping ur 1/4 mike time by .2 and only costing less than 70 buck im verry interested how difficult is it to install thumbsup


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: EuRoBoYGT] #13964 Apr 28, 5:14pm Apr 28, 5:14pm
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how much shipped to toronto, ontario, canada?
how hard is the install?
and can i get a group discounted rate if i set up a canadian group buy?

check your pm matt at nc thumbsup

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Re: Engine Braces [Re: Pete00] #13965 Apr 28, 5:15pm Apr 28, 5:15pm
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Interestig cool

Re: Engine Braces [Re: RicePowered] #13966 Apr 28, 5:42pm Apr 28, 5:42pm
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Re: Engine Braces [Re: Street Prototype] #13967 Apr 28, 6:45pm Apr 28, 6:45pm
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Sorry guys, I was out most of the evening. Thanks to some of the guys who have bought these in answering some of the questions.

Price on these is $56.00 shipped in the US
$61.00USD shipped to Canada
I also ship worldwide just need your postal code for pricing.

I do group buys to same loction if someone wants to get them together, shipping is much cheaper that way. i just need a heads up when you get one so I can make them. I'm only a one man crew and I need time to make them.

The brace fits both GT and GTS.
You only need one.

I take paypal and money order.
PM me with order info or questions.
Thanks
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Re: Engine Braces [Re: killerm] #13968 Apr 28, 6:48pm Apr 28, 6:48pm
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everyone should get one

Re: Engine Braces [Re: Steven] #13969 Apr 28, 6:55pm Apr 28, 6:55pm
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what sort of gains do they give you? Why don't they come with one stock if it's so cheap and improves engine life and power?


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: FX-MAN] #13970 Apr 28, 7:14pm Apr 28, 7:14pm
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Is there any way to reduce that vibration noise that I have read about?

Re: Engine Braces [Re: Grand-Touring-Dan] #13971 Apr 28, 10:54pm Apr 28, 10:54pm
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this is the brash boy version,but they charge $250!!!thats a lot for a little brace!
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Re: Engine Braces [Re: clockwork] #13972 Apr 29, 4:58am Apr 29, 4:58am
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Basically, the reason cars don't come stock with them is the same reason cars don't come with a CAI. It cost more, makes more noise and the average person doesn't want/need it.

As for the vibration reduction. The only way to do that is to have a set up like the brashboy setup above. But look at the price!!!

For $56 you get all of the performance a little noise and a whole lot less cost. Basically this is the thinking behind the brace. I could make one like theirs but the price would be that high.

As any performance mod you sacrifice a little comfort for some performance.

The gains from the brace are smoother shifting, quicker throttle response, less bogging in corners, less engine mount wear.

The down side is slight vibration at idle, and a low level gear whine. (drowned out by a radio, talking, or wind noise, it's that low level.)

Just a side note on the brashboy setup. notice anything missing on the car--hint--cruise control. You have to remove the cruise to install theirs. My brace is direct bolt-on with no removal of stock components.

Also the front beam of the Celica is very weak and will not hold up to stress of a brace pulling against it constantly.

My brace is rear mount(shock tower) a very strong point on the car.

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Re: Engine Braces [Re: killerm] #13973 Apr 29, 7:42am Apr 29, 7:42am
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sounds like you have a good design thumbsup


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: clockwork] #13974 Apr 29, 8:05am Apr 29, 8:05am
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The first week I had it installed was rattling. It sounded like a damn supercharger... it winded up harmonically with the engine rpm. It's been like 3 weeks since i installed it and the vibration noise is gone or BARELY noticeable.

I have nothing but good things to say about Matt's product. One thing that drastically improved was the shifting. It is not only easier to shift but it makes shifting smoother. Passengers say my shifting is quite smooth now. grin

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Originally posted by Grand-Touring-Dan:
Is there any way to reduce that vibration noise that I have read about?


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: Steven] #13975 Apr 29, 11:45am Apr 29, 11:45am
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Houston people, look in the Group buy forum for a group buy on this product. Act quickly because I want this badly.

Re: Engine Braces [Re: Grand-Touring-Dan] #13976 Apr 29, 11:57am Apr 29, 11:57am
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How easy is it to install ... like time wise ?

I gunna seriously think about this.

Re: Engine Braces [Re: RicePowered] #13977 Apr 30, 12:12am Apr 30, 12:12am
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If you are technically inclined and ambidexterous about 20 min. If you can't handle a wrench and need to wait for a friend to help hold the bolts one one side while you do the nuts on the other. About 1-1/2 hours.

The install isn't hard just time consuming because you don't have a lot of room to work.
Especially if you have big hands like me. Thumb to pinky is a 10in span thumbsup . Tight fit in the little engine bay.

You may want to invest in a telescoping magnet to retrieve bolts that you drop on the install. grin

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Re: Engine Braces [Re: killerm] #13978 Apr 30, 12:24am Apr 30, 12:24am
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O.K. I just had the first interested person here on this board PM me. What I'm going to do is post over on the For Sale formum with all of the payment info and keep a list updated so eveyone can see where their order stands.

Matt


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: killerm] #13979 Apr 30, 12:29am Apr 30, 12:29am
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Also, do the install when the engine is cold or as warm as you can take it. Since your hand will be touching or very close to the valve cover, your hand will get burnt.

If you insist on doing the install when the motor is too warm to touch, put a towel over it and cover as much as possible and you'll be just fine. (that's what I did)

Re: Engine Braces [Re: Steven] #13980 Apr 30, 12:42am Apr 30, 12:42am
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How would it help an automatic?


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Re: Engine Braces [Re: tony] #13981 Apr 30, 12:47am Apr 30, 12:47am
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Autos get the same effects as do manuals, and possibly more do to the horrible engine mounts used in the autos.


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Just one more question ... is there any drilling required or does it just use holes that are already there if so what exactly are we unbolting ? Thanks

Re: Engine Braces [Re: RicePowered] #13983 Apr 30, 4:49am Apr 30, 4:49am
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No drilling.
You unbolt the engine mount
(gets rebolted to brace)

Removing a wire clip for wiring harness
(not needed)

Utilizing existing bolt in shocktower.


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