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My thoughts on the power FC so far... #138976 Mar 29, 6:28pm Mar 29, 6:28pm
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My thoughts on the power FC so far...
OK heres my review so far.

I'm running the Map that smaay made.

1) cold starts kinda lag, warm - hot starts are better then they ued to be.

2) Idle is smooth as glass now.

3) the tone of the engine changed and everything is a tad bit louder

4) gas mileage has gotten WAY better. I got 40 miles more to a tank so far. next week I'll test the city/highway mileage better. (I always keep count cause of how far I drive to work) so it will be easy to compare.

5) the powerband so SO much nicer. I cant even explain how different it feels. It's like a whole new car.

6) from what I've played with so far launching in lift ROCKS!!!!

you can cruise at 40 - 50 mph in 6th gear and still be able to excelerate. Also I was messing around and let 2nd gear drop to 1K rpms and it didnt die had plenty of power to pull itself back up. stock ecu I woulda died. lol

7) I do not get pulled on by civics, neons, and saturns when I am out of lift

8) you can cruise with the A/C on AND a passenger without noticing too much power loss.


thats all for now. we raced the MWR map vs smaays map and I will be posting that vid tonight. Also just for fun we raced it against a gts with a 50 shot also. lol


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138977 Mar 29, 8:42pm Mar 29, 8:42pm
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Sounds sweet man!

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138978 Mar 29, 8:45pm Mar 29, 8:45pm
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thats awesome...completely

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138979 Mar 29, 8:46pm Mar 29, 8:46pm
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sweet. Good info. thumbsup


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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?
Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138980 Mar 29, 8:50pm Mar 29, 8:50pm
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Excellent review!


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: celicafourotwo] #138981 Mar 29, 8:58pm Mar 29, 8:58pm
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sweet. Good info. thumbsup


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138982 Mar 29, 9:00pm Mar 29, 9:00pm
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very sweet thumbsup

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138983 Mar 29, 10:29pm Mar 29, 10:29pm
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damn i wish they had it for the GT cry


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138984 Mar 29, 10:49pm Mar 29, 10:49pm
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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: EuRoBoYGT] #138985 Mar 29, 10:55pm Mar 29, 10:55pm
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Originally Posted by EuRoBoYGT
damn i wish they had it for the GT cry

http://monkeywrenchracing.com/apexi_power_fc_toyota_mr2_spyder.html
That says its for the MRS and the Celica GT (both have 1zz engines).

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: GTStick] #138986 Mar 29, 11:03pm Mar 29, 11:03pm
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Originally Posted by GTStick
very sweet thumbsup

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138987 Mar 30, 8:20am Mar 30, 8:20am
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don't you have to run a Dyno to set everything though ? for exampled could you have one seting for raceing and one for economy?

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138988 Mar 30, 11:35am Mar 30, 11:35am
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hmmmm, new to what these products do but an acquaintance and his friends have the power fc's from mwr and i recall that there are different "maps" you can utilize or you can customize your tuning with a power fc commander. an expensinve investment but it's seems to be worth the price...


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: JAIMEJAMES] #138989 Mar 30, 11:40am Mar 30, 11:40am
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Originally Posted by JAIMEJAMES
hmmmm, new to what these products do but an acquaintance and his friends have the power fc's from mwr and i recall that there are different "maps" you can utilize or you can customize your tuning with a power fc commander. an expensinve investment but it's seems to be worth the price...


Definitely.. VS. forced induction the amount of money spent is a lot less. And if you can get ahold of a dyno... thumbsup

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138990 Mar 30, 11:41am Mar 30, 11:41am
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Your getting better gas milage than I am.. what map do you have and what are your specific mods?

But my crusing speed is 75-80.. texas is great.

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138991 Mar 30, 1:06pm Mar 30, 1:06pm
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my typical cruising speed is 80 - 90

I posted the vids in the racing forum but I'll copy them here too.

I have AEM CAI, Power FC.


you do need a dyno to tune it properly but since we already dynoed it we knew where there were issues we could easily fix. and it made a big difference with the new map. as you will see in the videos.

you can have a race map and a street map if you want but you have to have the datalogit software.

the greatest thing about the power FC is its a learning mod. the more you mod the better it works smile


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138992 Mar 30, 1:09pm Mar 30, 1:09pm
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we made these vids to show the differences in power between the cars and to test the new tuning we did...


run #1 -
We took the base tuning maps from mwr stuck them on my power FC and took the new map we made and ran the 2 cars with a passenger in each car bout wieghing around 215 lbs so weight was even. you can see I pull on the shifting but the red car is still able to win even with a shifting disadvantage. we end around 120 mph.

www.ksbservices.com/powerfc/smaaymapvsmwrmap.wmv

Run #2 -

Just for fun we used the better map and ran the other celica that has I/E and a 50 shot. This race was a little more uneven and just for fun. The nitrous celica had no interior in the rear and passenger seat out. I had a 215 lb passenger + the seat and a whole hatch full of stuff we brought for the trip up there. SO I had the weight AND HP disadvantage. we hit around 110 mph.

www.ksbservices.com/powerfc/pfcvs50shot.wmv


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138993 Mar 30, 1:10pm Mar 30, 1:10pm
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the first video is uphill the 2nd is slightly downhill.

we were also at like 5,000 ft elevation so if you are timing the video we look really slow.lol


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138994 Mar 30, 2:02pm Mar 30, 2:02pm
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nice vids! thumbsup thumbsup

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: GTStick] #138995 Mar 30, 2:10pm Mar 30, 2:10pm
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nice videos man
you gotta post more vids using different maps
...kinda makes me wanna get a manual grin


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138996 Mar 30, 4:45pm Mar 30, 4:45pm
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hopefully what we have planned for saturday works like we are hoping. If it does then I'm sure myself and everyelse will have no words to describe it. lol if it does not work out then eh. try again. lol


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #138997 Mar 30, 8:21pm Mar 30, 8:21pm
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so if the red car doesnt have the power fc then how come it beat you in the race..i can understand the one with the 50 shot beating you...but i thought the power fc mad you a lot faster...?????

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: mike4089] #138998 Mar 30, 8:24pm Mar 30, 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by mike4089
so if the red car doesnt have the power fc then how come it beat you in the race..i can understand the one with the 50 shot beating you...but i thought the power fc mad you a lot faster...?????


red car had the agressively tuned maps with a power fc

mike had the base maps from Monkeywrench racing, just to show the agressive map was significantly faster, even with the other driver shifting early and slower.


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: mike4089] #138999 Mar 30, 8:25pm Mar 30, 8:25pm
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wuts a power fc?

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139000 Mar 30, 8:26pm Mar 30, 8:26pm
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so is the agressive map good for daily driving...and how do you load a diffrent map on the power fc...is it just plug and play or...?????

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139001 Mar 30, 10:12pm Mar 30, 10:12pm
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Mike you're making me want one more and more

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139002 Mar 30, 11:19pm Mar 30, 11:19pm
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heres some eye candy nuetral rev videos of reving in lift up to 8600 rpms smile
www.ksbservices.com/powerfc/insiderev.wmv
www.ksbservices.com/powerfc/outsiderev.wmv


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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
heres some eye candy nuetral rev videos of reving in lift up to 8600 rpms smile
www.ksbservices.com/powerfc/insiderev.wmv
www.ksbservices.com/powerfc/outsiderev.wmv

Looks and sounds great!
You know what kinda video you need now? A spoof of the eclipse 'days go by' lol. You could be driving...and have illusive breaking out his moves in the passengers seat! rofl

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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139005 Mar 31, 1:50am Mar 31, 1:50am
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how easy is it to retune the ecu. i know you hook it up to the laptop. but i wanna know how it is exactly done. i dont have a lot of knowledge about this. is it any easy? is it like different maps saved and you load them to the ecu?

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you can store as many maps as your computer can hold really. and then you plug the computer into the pfc and simply load the map of your choice.

to edit the maps you really should not try to edit too much witout somewhat knowing what you are doing. also it's best to do it on a dyno so you know what the results are.


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: stefanoc] #139007 Mar 31, 10:55am Mar 31, 10:55am
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Originally Posted by stefanoc
how easy is it to retune the ecu. i know you hook it up to the laptop. but i wanna know how it is exactly done. i dont have a lot of knowledge about this. is it any easy? is it like different maps saved and you load them to the ecu?


there are two choices, FC commander, which is like a diagnostic tool, and allows only adjustments of the power FC and monitoring abilities.

theres the Datalogic, which gives full control, and map saving/loading capabilities- which we use


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139008 Mar 31, 12:52pm Mar 31, 12:52pm
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Question..i'm looking at the one for the GT

http://monkeywrenchracing.com/apexi_power_fc_toyota_mr2_spyder.html

Is it possible to display the setting onto a TV screen in the car? i might try this out since no one else has yet for the GT that i know of grin

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the one map that the other guy used when you racing with him, did he do any changes or was it just a map that he loaded on it? does ur ecu have to be connected to ur car when you load the program or you have to take it off and save it on the ecu? meaning cant you do it on a desktop pc or ecu has to be on the car
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has to be on the car.

and yes you could show it on a tv screen in a car by using an old trick.

make a custom tower and run the video through the video input on the screen. for power you'd need an inverter to get you your power. I've done that before for other purposes when I used to work on bling bling cars. which I no longer do cause most the crap is retarded and I got tired of it.


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: trog2233] #139011 Mar 31, 7:16pm Mar 31, 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by trog2233
Question..i'm looking at the one for the GT

http://monkeywrenchracing.com/apexi_power_fc_toyota_mr2_spyder.html

Is it possible to display the setting onto a TV screen in the car? i might try this out since no one else has yet for the GT that i know of grin


if you do end up getting it, I may be another GT close on your heels thumbsup

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http://www.ksbservices.com/powerfc/8600shift.wmv


thats the new 15- 100 mph 8600 shift point vid smile


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139013 Mar 31, 10:30pm Mar 31, 10:30pm
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eek my car should do that!
isn't that harsh on the engine?

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139014 Mar 31, 10:49pm Mar 31, 10:49pm
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nope she loves it smile


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Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139015 Apr 1, 12:25am Apr 1, 12:25am
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nice info! thumbsup

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139016 Apr 1, 12:37am Apr 1, 12:37am
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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
http://www.ksbservices.com/powerfc/8600shift.wmv


thats the new 15- 100 mph 8600 shift point vid smile


im in love! oh wow. and is that regular mapping you used or something you edited? that is beautiful!!!!!

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nice review, that will help to make my decision...

Re: My thoughts on the power FC so far... [Re: Lucky_317] #139018 Apr 1, 10:40am Apr 1, 10:40am
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the map was homeade wink the base map isnt bad either though.


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