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oOoLINoOo Mar 28, 7:21am - #137198 
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Why most people bought short intake instead of long one ?

Why most people bought short Intake instead of long one ??
Are they work the same?
Which one is better?
I am new, can I ask what Intake for?
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eric_h Mar 28, 7:28am - #137199 

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short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock

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Elec-FuYu Mar 28, 7:33am - #137200 
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cos they are afraid of hydrolock...which does not happen unless you drive ur car into a swimming pool or lake or pond or ocean or...u get the idea...

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v3n0m Mar 28, 7:39am - #137201 

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< wanted a japanese Intake grin
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Chico Mar 28, 7:56am - #137202 

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I have an Injen Race Divicion Cold Air Intake (a long one).. Is really cool, I like the sound that it gives to your engine.. Hum is really cool how it sounds when it releases air when the engine gets shut off.. Hum you should get one.. an air Intake (short) or Cold Air Intake (long), it would be better than the stock air box.. thumbsup
An air Intake, it allows you engine to get more air, and by that, it increases horse powers..(it depends on the type of Intake that you get).. and also it wastes less fuel..
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isaac Mar 28, 8:21am - #137203 
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i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).

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Chico Mar 28, 8:30am - #137204 

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Originally Posted by isaac
i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).
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celicafourotwo Mar 28, 11:55pm - #137205 

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Originally Posted by isaac
i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).


Couldn't have said it any better. grin

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Whenever my car is at a full stop or even in park the RPM never sits on 0. what does this mean?

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yea i got the short just because of the look
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VSGTS14 Mar 29, 12:04am - #137207 

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don't have to worry about hydrolocking with shortram and you can see it under the Hood grin

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LostAngel Mar 29, 12:51am - #137208 
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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
don't have to worry about hydrolocking with shortram and you can see it under the Hood grin

Dont have to worry about hydrolock if you dont drive in a lake. grin

But I do agree, I do like the looks of the shortram. thumbsup
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grcelica Mar 29, 1:55am - #137209 

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Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
Originally Posted by isaac
i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).


Couldn't have said it any better. grin


All of that, especially the 2 hp diff, and IMO the shortram has a beefier sound too.
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Firestorm Mar 29, 2:39am - #137210 

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which one sounds better? spineyes
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NorwayGT Mar 29, 2:45am - #137211 

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i got the Injen CAI for the HP

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Speed4TheNeed Mar 29, 3:22am - #137212 

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Originally Posted by grcelica
Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
Originally Posted by isaac
i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).


Couldn't have said it any better. grin


All of that, especially the 2 hp diff, and IMO the shortram has a beefier sound too.


the 2 whp difference is in favor of the CAI (not shortram).

if you are looking into shortrams, i would look into Injen or rmm (with heatshield)

if you are looking into CAI's i would look into AEM (2nd gen) and Injen.

the CAI (as i already said) usually gives about 1-2 more whp than a shortram. if you add an exhaust and/or header the difference will be even bigger (up to 5 whp). if you are interested in Performance and plan to add an exhaust/header then i would go with CAI even with teh difficulties it has. (5 whp is a pretty big difference).

pesonally, i'm more of a shortram person and that's probably what i'll be getting in the following weeks. it's more of a 'show mod' plus considerring how cash-strapped i am i don't think an exhaust/header will be coming much sooner depending on how dc motorsports does thumbsup
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SCOTT03 Mar 29, 3:37am - #137213 
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i'm probably gonna be getting a k&n typhoon Short Ram pretty soon. Honestly i don't think the 2whp is worth the risk of hydrolock. Sure you have to hit a big puddle, but i don't want to be nervous driving in the rain. Also you can't see your filter so you really don't know when its dirty or damaged. I remember reading a while back where some guy went to clean his filter and it had actually fallen off! Of course i'm gonna put the RMM heatshield on also, with my TRD front i expect for it to be rather cold air without complete cold air. (TRD bumper gots big vent in front)

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eric_h Mar 29, 3:44am - #137214 

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Originally Posted by SCOTT03
i'm probably gonna be getting a k&n typhoon short ram pretty soon. Honestly i don't think the 2whp is worth the risk of hydrolock. Sure you have to hit a big puddle, but i don't want to be nervous driving in the rain. Also you can't see your filter so you really don't know when its dirty or damaged. I remember reading a while back where some guy went to clean his filter and it had actually fallen off! Of course i'm gonna put the RMM heatshield on also, with my trd front i expect for it to be rather cold air without complete cold air. (TRD bumper gots big vent in front)


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SatinSilverGTS Mar 29, 3:55am - #137215 

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Originally Posted by eric_h
short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
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Mizery_Machine Mar 29, 3:59am - #137216 
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
i got the injen CAI for the HP

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5280vvti Mar 29, 4:06am - #137217 

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Originally Posted by Elec-FuYu
cos they are afraid of hydrolock...which does not happen unless you drive ur car into a swimming pool or lake or pond or ocean or...u get the idea...


laughsilly Well said wink
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 29, 4:36am - #137218 

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Originally Posted by SatinSilverGTS
Originally Posted by eric_h
short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
:werd:


you can get a bypass valve which virtually eliminates hydrolock.
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JAY-C Mar 29, 5:27am - #137219 
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which short-arm is better... as in sound and quality? i want something that sounds mean but at the same time is good quality. i want to know because i'm about to get one and i've heard negative things about Injen about the quality so any thing will help

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isaac Mar 29, 6:38am - #137220 
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Injen - Negative things???

do tell... and also post up if that was 1st gen or 3rd gen Injen happywink

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NorwayGT Mar 29, 6:45am - #137221 

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ive never herd anything bad about Injen, nor have i experianced anything bad with Injen

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Peterkwon87 Mar 29, 7:03am - #137222 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by SatinSilverGTS
Originally Posted by eric_h
short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
:werd:


you can get a bypass valve which virtually eliminates hydrolock.

i heard sumtimes parts off a bypass valve will get sucked in.
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isaac Mar 29, 7:59am - #137223 
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Originally Posted by Peterkwon87
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by SatinSilverGTS
Originally Posted by eric_h
short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
:werd:


you can get a bypass valve which virtually eliminates hydrolock.

i heard sumtimes parts off a bypass valve will get sucked in.


"PARTS" ??? what parts???

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LostAngel Mar 30, 2:06am - #137224 
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Originally Posted by isaac
Originally Posted by Peterkwon87
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by SatinSilverGTS
[quote=eric_h]short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
:werd:


you can get a bypass valve which virtually eliminates hydrolock.

i heard sumtimes parts off a bypass valve will get sucked in.


"PARTS" ??? what parts???

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That Vol. Recall for the bypass valve states that a piece COULD come off and get in your throttle body or something of that nature.
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JAY-C Mar 30, 3:55am - #137225 
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Originally Posted by isaac
Injen - Negative things???

do tell... and also post up if that was 1st gen or 3rd gen Injen happywink


a couple of people on the forums have posted that the their Injen Intake's quality sucks because somehow a quarter size whole was made on pipe. i don't remember who it was but someone posted something about it on the forums

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bmw52786 Mar 30, 4:14am - #137226 

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where can i get a k&n typhoon Short Ram and RMM heatshield??? thanks

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