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Mar 28, 12:21am - #137198 
Why most people bought short intake instead of long one ?

Why most people bought short Intake instead of long one ??
Are they work the same?
Which one is better?
I am new, can I ask what Intake for?

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Mar 28, 12:28am - #137199 
short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock


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Mar 28, 12:33am - #137200 
cos they are afraid of hydrolock...which does not happen unless you drive ur car into a swimming pool or lake or pond or ocean or...u get the idea...


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Mar 28, 12:39am - #137201 
< wanted a japanese Intake grin

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Mar 28, 12:56am - #137202 
I have an Injen Race Divicion Cold Air Intake (a long one).. Is really cool, I like the sound that it gives to your engine.. Hum is really cool how it sounds when it releases air when the engine gets shut off.. Hum you should get one.. an air Intake (short) or Cold Air Intake (long), it would be better than the stock air box.. thumbsup
An air Intake, it allows you engine to get more air, and by that, it increases horse powers..(it depends on the type of Intake that you get).. and also it wastes less fuel..

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Mar 28, 1:21am - #137203 
i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).


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Mar 28, 1:30am - #137204 
Originally Posted by isaac
i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).
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Mar 28, 4:55pm - #137205 
Originally Posted by isaac
i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).


Couldn't have said it any better. grin


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Mar 28, 5:02pm - #137206 
yea i got the short just because of the look

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Mar 28, 5:04pm - #137207 
don't have to worry about hydrolocking with shortram and you can see it under the Hood grin


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Mar 28, 5:51pm - #137208 
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
don't have to worry about hydrolocking with shortram and you can see it under the Hood grin

Dont have to worry about hydrolock if you dont drive in a lake. grin

But I do agree, I do like the looks of the shortram. thumbsup

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Mar 28, 6:55pm - #137209 
Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
Originally Posted by isaac
i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).


Couldn't have said it any better. grin


All of that, especially the 2 hp diff, and IMO the shortram has a beefier sound too.

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Mar 28, 7:39pm - #137210 
which one sounds better? spineyes

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Mar 28, 7:45pm - #137211 
i got the Injen CAI for the HP


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Mar 28, 8:22pm - #137212 
Originally Posted by grcelica
Originally Posted by celicafourotwo
Originally Posted by isaac
i went with a Short Ram because it has a better presentation when you open the Hood...

a CAI leaves the engine bay looking empty and give it that "missing something" look.

Also, the filter on the Short Ram tends to not get as dirty, as quickly, as it often does on a CAI.

the filter on a Short Ram can also be cleaned much effortlessly than the filter on a CAI - with the CAI, you may need to remove your bumper to do the recommended 6 months/6,000 miles (or when dirty) cleaning process

i really could have cared less about the 2hp difference between the two.

I also choose the Short Ram instead of the CAI because I needed to be sure that WHATEVER bumper i decided to put on my Celica next, it would fit... there are some bumpers that don't leave enough room for a CAI.

and lastly, i would not have been able to relocate one of the two stock Celica horns - out of vision, such as it was in it's current location. factory placement made the celi look look ugly. so i moved it from the front of the body, around to the side (sound volume hasn't changed, only the location).


Couldn't have said it any better. grin


All of that, especially the 2 hp diff, and IMO the shortram has a beefier sound too.


the 2 whp difference is in favor of the CAI (not shortram).

if you are looking into shortrams, i would look into Injen or rmm (with heatshield)

if you are looking into CAI's i would look into AEM (2nd gen) and Injen.

the CAI (as i already said) usually gives about 1-2 more whp than a shortram. if you add an exhaust and/or header the difference will be even bigger (up to 5 whp). if you are interested in Performance and plan to add an exhaust/header then i would go with CAI even with teh difficulties it has. (5 whp is a pretty big difference).

pesonally, i'm more of a shortram person and that's probably what i'll be getting in the following weeks. it's more of a 'show mod' plus considerring how cash-strapped i am i don't think an exhaust/header will be coming much sooner depending on how dc motorsports does thumbsup

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Mar 28, 8:37pm - #137213 
i'm probably gonna be getting a k&n typhoon Short Ram pretty soon. Honestly i don't think the 2whp is worth the risk of hydrolock. Sure you have to hit a big puddle, but i don't want to be nervous driving in the rain. Also you can't see your filter so you really don't know when its dirty or damaged. I remember reading a while back where some guy went to clean his filter and it had actually fallen off! Of course i'm gonna put the RMM heatshield on also, with my TRD front i expect for it to be rather cold air without complete cold air. (TRD bumper gots big vent in front)


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Mar 28, 8:44pm - #137214 
Originally Posted by SCOTT03
i'm probably gonna be getting a k&n typhoon short ram pretty soon. Honestly i don't think the 2whp is worth the risk of hydrolock. Sure you have to hit a big puddle, but i don't want to be nervous driving in the rain. Also you can't see your filter so you really don't know when its dirty or damaged. I remember reading a while back where some guy went to clean his filter and it had actually fallen off! Of course i'm gonna put the RMM heatshield on also, with my trd front i expect for it to be rather cold air without complete cold air. (TRD bumper gots big vent in front)


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Mar 28, 8:55pm - #137215 
Originally Posted by eric_h
short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
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Mar 28, 8:59pm - #137216 
Originally Posted by NorwayGT
i got the injen CAI for the HP

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Mar 28, 9:06pm - #137217 
Originally Posted by Elec-FuYu
cos they are afraid of hydrolock...which does not happen unless you drive ur car into a swimming pool or lake or pond or ocean or...u get the idea...


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Mar 28, 9:36pm - #137218 
Originally Posted by SatinSilverGTS
Originally Posted by eric_h
short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
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you can get a bypass valve which virtually eliminates hydrolock.

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Mar 28, 10:27pm - #137219 
which short-arm is better... as in sound and quality? i want something that sounds mean but at the same time is good quality. i want to know because i'm about to get one and i've heard negative things about Injen about the quality so any thing will help


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Mar 28, 11:38pm - #137220 
Injen - Negative things???

do tell... and also post up if that was 1st gen or 3rd gen Injen happywink


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Mar 28, 11:45pm - #137221 
ive never herd anything bad about Injen, nor have i experianced anything bad with Injen


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Mar 29, 12:03am - #137222 
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by SatinSilverGTS
Originally Posted by eric_h
short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
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you can get a bypass valve which virtually eliminates hydrolock.

i heard sumtimes parts off a bypass valve will get sucked in.

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Mar 29, 12:59am - #137223 
Originally Posted by Peterkwon87
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by SatinSilverGTS
Originally Posted by eric_h
short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
:werd:


you can get a bypass valve which virtually eliminates hydrolock.

i heard sumtimes parts off a bypass valve will get sucked in.


"PARTS" ??? what parts???


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Mar 29, 7:06pm - #137224 
Originally Posted by isaac
Originally Posted by Peterkwon87
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by SatinSilverGTS
[quote=eric_h]short=less power
cold air(long)= more power but can cause hydrolock
:werd:


you can get a bypass valve which virtually eliminates hydrolock.

i heard sumtimes parts off a bypass valve will get sucked in.


"PARTS" ??? what parts???

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Mar 29, 8:55pm - #137225 
Originally Posted by isaac
Injen - Negative things???

do tell... and also post up if that was 1st gen or 3rd gen Injen happywink


a couple of people on the forums have posted that the their Injen Intake's quality sucks because somehow a quarter size whole was made on pipe. i don't remember who it was but someone posted something about it on the forums


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Mar 29, 9:14pm - #137226 
where can i get a k&n typhoon Short Ram and RMM heatshield??? thanks


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