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Mar 27, 12:36pm - #136568 
Lotus Elise parts for Celica?

Anyone seen or heard anything about the availability of Lotus Elise parts? I want to get my hands on the ECU programming and head they are using to get more tq and hp out of our 2zz. Monkey Wrench Racing has some parts available, but no ECU or cylinder heads:

http://monkeywrenchracing.com/lotus_elise.html

http://www.lotuscars.co.uk/template.cfm?...the_lotus_elise

The Celica engine seems to be winding up in allot cars lately, Matrix, Corolla, and now the Lotus Elise, interesting that in each of these case they retune the engine somehow better low end torque.

At 1700 lbs and 190hp with a 0 - 60 time of 5.1 seconds, just imagine hitting lift in this thing!
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Mar 27, 12:43pm - #136569 
Corolla..? Perhaps a new model that's comming out. I know the GT engine can be found in some Camry's, and the Matrix XR-S will have the 2zz-ge engine, same with the Lotus Elise, but it sounds like they may have the Euro and Asian set-up because in some parts of Europe (well maybe all) and Asia their GTS has 190hp.


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Mar 27, 12:52pm - #136570 
they did not change the head it was a Intake manifold change.

possibly cams may have been changed that i do not now but mostly new Intake and ecu change.


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Mar 27, 12:55pm - #136571 
the celica GTS engine is no where...2zz...

only in GTS celica and XRS Matrix...

the GT motor is in celica, matrix, and corolla but less power in corolla...and the scion's don't have the celica motors...the 2zz isn't that popular


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Mar 27, 12:56pm - #136572 
i take it billy never heard of the new corolla xrs with teh 2zz enigne coming out this yera huh?


ask yoru dad about it he prolly knows all about it.


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Mar 27, 12:57pm - #136573 
Less power in the corolla?? Why?

Here the corolla 2zz has 192hp.

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Mar 27, 12:58pm - #136574 
over here the 2zz can't make the power you ave in belgium due to emissions adn teh gas we get so it won't make more than 180.


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Mar 27, 1:01pm - #136575 
Originally Posted by Krayze
i take it billy never heard of the new corolla xrs with teh 2zz enigne coming out this yera huh?


ask yoru dad about it he prolly knows all about it.

170 though...forgot about that one...nothing new though, same car...what i mean is that the 2zz isn't going to show up alot...as much as toyota's other motors...but it's still a great engine.


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Mar 27, 1:03pm - #136576 
oh okay wasn't sure you were aware of the new xrs.

jsut makig sure.

but i still wanna find out when the elise aftermakrtet is gin to start to support hte new engine.

elise as a huge following of pereformeance parts so this may get interesting.


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Mar 27, 1:04pm - #136577 
Originally Posted by Krayze
oh okay wasn't sure you were aware of the new xrs.

jsut makig sure.

but i still wanna find out when the elise aftermakrtet is gin to start to support hte new engine.

elise as a huge following of pereformeance parts so this may get interesting.


and won't those parts work for our engines?


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Mar 27, 1:07pm - #136578 
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
Originally Posted by Krayze
oh okay wasn't sure you were aware of the new xrs.

jsut makig sure.

but i still wanna find out when the elise aftermakrtet is gin to start to support hte new engine.

elise as a huge following of pereformeance parts so this may get interesting.


and won't those parts work for our engines?


I think that's the point of the post thumbsup

I actually was thinking about posting this same topic last night. Beat me to it. spineyes


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Mar 27, 1:12pm - #136579 
yeah billy those [arts shoul work no prob. unless they are ecu specific. then i'll need the pfc


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Mar 27, 6:51pm - #136580 
2004 Toyota Corolla XRS

The special edition Toyota, tagged with the XRS moniker, features a slightly detuned 170-hp version of the brand's normally 180-hp 2ZZ dual overhead cam Celica GTS and Matrix XRS engine, a 1.8-L VVTL-i 4-cylinder featuring 127 lb-ft of torque, mated to a 6-speed manual transmission.

http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/roadtest,view,Toyota.spy?artid=18447

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-27945.html

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Mar 28, 11:29am - #136581 
This site has a great write up on the 2zz engine as we know it, and how Lotus got more torque and hp from it:

"Lotus Tuning
Toyota's 2ZZ-GE versions found in the U.S. make ten fewer horsepower at 180 hp than the same engine in the rest of the world which has 190 hp. However Lotus has retuned the 2ZZ-GE for use in Elise, smoothing out the torque dip at the 6000 rpm cam changeover point and strengthening the torque in the other rpm ranges. In addition to the improved torque Lotus brought the peak horsepower back up to 190 in their U.S. version of the engine. These adjustments were largely accomplished by reprogramming the Engine Control Unit (ECU or engine computer). Toyota has apparently expressed interest in the changes Lotus made to broaden and even the torque and increase the power. Changes to the Lotus version of the engine are not purely electronic, however, as a new Intake and exhaust are also fitted. The exhaust is so fully optimized that altering it reportedly results in a significant power loss. Aftermarket tuners and parts buyers beware!"

http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/thecar/engine/toyota.html thumbsup


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