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SwiftCelGTS Mar 25, 12:08am - #134081 

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how much of a hp gain from headers?

or lets say you've got a stock gts. you add TRD Intake, exhaust, and headers. how much power you got?
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ghostingcelica Mar 25, 2:26am - #134084 
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 25, 2:30am - #134085 

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Intakes alone usually give about 2-3 (name brand such as Injen, AEM, rmm)
exhausts alone usually give about 3-5 (again: not ripoffs)
headers alone usually give about 4-11 (same..no ripoffs)

when you put everything together though, you will gain more together than they do individually.

you're looking at a ballpark figure of 13-15 whp thumbsup
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i'd say 15-20...Trial is known for 11...TRD exhaust is like 6...and Intake...

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Evan Mar 25, 2:42am - #134087 

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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i'd say 15-20...Trial is known for 11...trd exhaust is like 6...and Intake...


You can't just add them up; those are independent gains. Together, they don't equal the sum of all their parts.

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slidr Mar 25, 2:45am - #134088 

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Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i'd say 15-20...Trial is known for 11...trd exhaust is like 6...and Intake...


You can't just add them up; those are independent gains. Together, they don't equal the sum of all their parts.
I'd say 7hp at the most. That's just me.

Besides, dyno results can fluctuate a few horsepower each read, so who really knows?

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Speed4TheNeed Mar 25, 2:54am - #134089 

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Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i'd say 15-20...Trial is known for 11...trd exhaust is like 6...and Intake...


You can't just add them up; those are independent gains. Together, they don't equal the sum of all their parts.


correct. they equal more. like sentergy or centergy or however you say it
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 25, 2:54am - #134090 

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^^synergy rofl
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Evan Mar 25, 2:57am - #134091 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
^^synergy rofl


rofl

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ghostingcelica Mar 25, 3:24am - #134092 
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whats the highest hp a celica ever got?
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NorwayGT Mar 25, 3:27am - #134093 

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Originally Posted by ghostingcelica
whats the highest hp a celica ever got?

there are gen7's over 300hp, but there are alltracks with over a thousand HP

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spaztikid Mar 25, 3:28am - #134094 
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3sgte's can have over 500 hp easy, they are found in the older MR2's and all trac's.

with the "zz" engines, i'd say smaay had the highest, with about 267ish WHP, from the XS Turbo.
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My Sixth Gear Mar 25, 4:01am - #134095 
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Originally Posted by spaztikid
3sgte's can have over 500 hp easy, they are found in the older MR2's and all trac's.

with the "zz" engines, i'd say smaay had the highest, with about 267ish WHP, from the XS Turbo.

the hotchkis celi had over 300hp

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DarkMatter Mar 25, 4:06am - #134096 

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synergy.. um.. The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.

so, if the combo of these items were a synergy, they would offer more hp than the sum of the individual pieces, not less
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eric_h Mar 25, 4:20am - #134097 

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Originally Posted by DarkMatter
synergy.. um.. The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.

so, if the combo of these items were a synergy, they would offer more hp than the sum of the individual pieces, not less


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Mad_Game Mar 25, 5:08am - #134098 
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the Rod Millen celica has like 550 or something liek that, go on caranddriver.com or ill go find the link real quick..
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Mad_Game Mar 25, 5:09am - #134099 
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DarkMatter Mar 25, 9:55am - #134100 

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Originally Posted by Mad_Game


beautiful. if they figured out a way to increase torque down low and fixed that transmission, i'd need to to rob a bank
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Evan Mar 25, 4:34pm - #134101 

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Originally Posted by DarkMatter
synergy.. um.. The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.

so, if the combo of these items were a synergy, they would offer more hp than the sum of the individual pieces, not less


Yes, did you read my post carefully? I said that was NOT the case deal :

Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i'd say 15-20...Trial is known for 11...trd exhaust is like 6...and Intake...


You can't just add them up; those are independent gains. Together, they don't equal the sum of all their parts.

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Speed4TheNeed Mar 25, 4:36pm - #134102 

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Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by DarkMatter
synergy.. um.. The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.

so, if the combo of these items were a synergy, they would offer more hp than the sum of the individual pieces, not less


Yes, did you read my post carefully? I said that was NOT the case deal :

Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i'd say 15-20...Trial is known for 11...trd exhaust is like 6...and Intake...


You can't just add them up; those are independent gains. Together, they don't equal the sum of all their parts.


well, i understood it the first time, if that helps, evan thumbsup
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Evan Mar 25, 4:41pm - #134103 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by DarkMatter
synergy.. um.. The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.

so, if the combo of these items were a synergy, they would offer more hp than the sum of the individual pieces, not less


Yes, did you read my post carefully? I said that was NOT the case deal :

Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i'd say 15-20...Trial is known for 11...trd exhaust is like 6...and Intake...


You can't just add them up; those are independent gains. Together, they don't equal the sum of all their parts.


well, i understood it the first time, if that helps, evan thumbsup


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Speed4TheNeed Mar 25, 4:43pm - #134104 

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Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by DarkMatter
synergy.. um.. The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.

so, if the combo of these items were a synergy, they would offer more hp than the sum of the individual pieces, not less


Yes, did you read my post carefully? I said that was NOT the case deal :

Originally Posted by Evan
[quote=VSGTS14]i'd say 15-20...Trial is known for 11...trd exhaust is like 6...and Intake...


You can't just add them up; those are independent gains. Together, they don't equal the sum of all their parts.


well, i understood it the first time, if that helps, evan thumbsup


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well to answer your question a stock gts with Intake,header, and exhaust rate at about 175whp. our GTS respond very well to "breather" mods.

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woops! forgot to mention...that dyno is from a 6sp GTS...the auto GTS will only garner 155-160whp with i/h/e... thumbsup

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DarkMatter Mar 25, 5:35pm - #134107 

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Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by DarkMatter
synergy.. um.. The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects.

so, if the combo of these items were a synergy, they would offer more hp than the sum of the individual pieces, not less


Yes, did you read my post carefully? I said that was NOT the case deal :

Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i'd say 15-20...Trial is known for 11...trd exhaust is like 6...and Intake...


You can't just add them up; those are independent gains. Together, they don't equal the sum of all their parts.


Yeah, you also said that you can't just add them up. I understand the concept and agree with you. Also, I misread a post, yes- but it wasn't yours I was responding to. Unnecessary... complications... zzzi... ``zzzzz' ''
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Evan Mar 25, 8:23pm - #134108 

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^^Thus, as ct's dyno demonstrates.. all of those mods together only yielded a 5hp increase deal

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Lucky_317 Mar 25, 8:53pm - #134109 

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Originally Posted by Evan
^^Thus, as ct's dyno demonstrates.. all of those mods together only yielded a 5hp increase deal

exactly.

Trials #'s are about as far fetched as you can get. people claim up to 10 whp but I personally have yet to see it done. Even monkey wrench racing was unhappy with the results they got when dynoing with the trial. So bad in fact they wouldnt release the #'s. lol

I don't think you'll see more then 10 whp all three combined. Even thats a bit of a stretch.

if you want real power you gotta get the Power FC and tune it to your car. with generic tuning I saw 20 whp in the midrange and 15 wtq. I plan to hit 180 whp with proper tuning wink only mods besides the pfc is AEM CAI.

good luck aiming for 15 whp gains with I/H/E smile

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I thought i saw on your another thread you were getting a GTS auto. I know that some people have actually lost HP putting headers into there auto.

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ct Mar 25, 9:39pm - #134112 

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Originally Posted by spyder00367
I thought i saw on your another thread you were getting a GTS auto. I know that some people have actually lost HP putting headers into there auto.


well they will lose low end but gain mid to high end...they are "slower" because pick up from a stop is slower...

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Illusive Mar 26, 5:36pm - #134113 
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Originally Posted by sUpErSwIfTcEliCa
or lets say you've got a stock gts. you add trd Intake, exhaust, and headers. how much power you got?


there is only ONE exhaust manifold on the celica, hence we have One headder.

if we had a v4(boxter style) v6 or v8 we would have 2 exhaust manifolds hence "headders"

trial headder has been shown to run pretty lean on a dyno, as well as other i/h/e gts's which will make more power,

stock dynos are anywhere from high 150's to low 160's and i/h/e gts usually dyno in the 170's

gains from i/h/e are in the 10whp range.

as mike said add the pfc and it gets multiplied. as we will soon see with my car smile

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Lucky_317 Mar 26, 9:03pm - #134114 

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^^ mine may even be done before yours wink lol 180 whp with Intake and powerFC is the goal. thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Lucky_317
^^ mine may even be done before yours wink lol 180 whp with Intake and powerFC is the goal. thumbsup


sadly this may be true :sadpace:

:sigh: but at least we'll both have 180 whp wink

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^^ yup.

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