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ct Mar 23, 9:09pm - #132835 

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RELUSTS FROM EXHAUST NOISE TEST...IT'S NOT OVER YET!

well guys i'm back from probably one of the biggest hassles anyone has to endure. so here goes. i just went to the state referee and he used this small device and put it right next to the exhaust...the guy rev'ed it at 5,700 rpm (but i swear i heard lift engage) and my decible reading were----96.8,97.5,96.5...so i thought "oh great...now i'm screwed since the limit is 95db". turns out that there is a +/- 1.5 db tolerance and so i passed at 96.5. awesome. i took it to the chp to get the ticket signed off...at first they gave me a hard time saying that at 96.5 it didn't pass...so i showed them my paper work and my certificate and once they listened to the exhaust (with no device just their ears) they signed off on the ticket...i'm out of the woods right? WRONG!...i go the clerk's desk over at the court house and it turns out that i am not supposed to just mail the certificate proving that it is legal I HAVE TO SHOW UP IN COURT NO MATTER WHAT or pay the fine. this is bull**** because the cop who pulled me over told me all i had to do was comply that the exhaust was legal and that if i didn't want to appear in court all i had to do was mail the damn thing! i travelled an excess of 50 miles alone going back and forth from the referee station to the chp to the court house. this is friggin' ridiculous!!! i have complied will all the "rules" and jumped through all the hoops to make these queers happy and now they tell me i can't just go and get hassled to have to go to court??? BULL****!!!!!!! i'm so pissed right now. i have no faith in this justice system at all...

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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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StoneSour Mar 23, 9:20pm - #132836 

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That sucks thumbsdown
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tru_Asiatik_Pride Mar 23, 9:28pm - #132837 

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that [email]fu@|<ing[/email] sux bro angry angry this is jus bull thumbsdown
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CeLlYgT04 Mar 23, 10:03pm - #132838 

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That sucks...Sorry to hear that thumbsdown
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ct Mar 23, 10:10pm - #132839 

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just a fair warning in cali...be on the look-out because they're looking for blood...

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Warlord786 Mar 23, 10:11pm - #132840 
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damn dude that cop is the biggest flamer ever

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AZZKIKR Mar 23, 10:15pm - #132841 

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^^ seriously!!! I'd call and give them the cops badge number and raise hell because he told you they would drop it
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VSGTS14 Mar 23, 11:55pm - #132842 

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CID498 Mar 24, 12:54am - #132843 

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Theyre just fucking with you Christian and that aint cool at all, I mean shit man the chp motorcycles are louder than hell and don't get me started on the harley people. Just do what ya gotta do man and get it over with. Sucks man

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ct Mar 24, 1:18am - #132844 

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Originally Posted by CID498
Theyre just fucking with you Christian and that aint cool at all,


yeah i'm getting that feeling i'm getting bent over to recieve a good "rodgering"...lol rofl

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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IxkissablexI Mar 24, 3:16am - #132845 

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aw that sux but yea i would get the badge number and raise hell for him too
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eric_h Mar 24, 3:18am - #132846 

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Originally Posted by IxkissablexI
aw that sux but yea i would get the badge number and raise hell for him too

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Parabol Mar 24, 4:33am - #132847 
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CID498 Mar 24, 5:13am - #132848 

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Originally Posted by ct
"rodgering"...lol rofl



lollol




Parabol yer avatar is very disturbing.

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slidr Mar 24, 5:25am - #132849 

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How much was the original ticket for?

Might have been worth it to just pay it now.

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LostAngel Mar 24, 5:44am - #132850 
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Originally Posted by CID498
Theyre just fucking with you Christian and that aint cool at all, I mean shit man the chp motorcycles are louder than hell and don't get me started on the harley people. Just do what ya gotta do man and get it over with. Sucks man

Yeah, harleys are MAD loud. No way in hell your cars louder than that!
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NorwayGT Mar 24, 5:54am - #132851 

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that sucks man. at least you dont got a TRD Kazuma lol

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Know666 Mar 24, 6:02am - #132852 

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CT... You've come this far. Finish the journey so we all know exactly what we are in for in the future!!! angry


Parabol... Never change that avatar. i've been laughing for that 20 damn minutes!!! rofl rofl thumbsup
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Eyger Mar 24, 6:49am - #132853 

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Originally Posted by ct
I have no faith in this justice system at all...


Couldn't have said it better myself.

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LostAngel Mar 24, 7:24am - #132854 
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Originally Posted by Eyger
Originally Posted by ct
I have no faith in this justice system at all...


Couldn't have said it better myself.

Though a lot of cops are actually nice, there are a lot of asses out there that cause a bad rep for police. Not all of them are trying to get a quota or harasse aftermarket cars. Those that do so are dumb and shouldnt be police.
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AZZKIKR Mar 24, 4:25pm - #132855 

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^^^^^ bingo!! and parabol...your avatar made me have to stop work for a moment...that rocks...
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ct Mar 24, 4:54pm - #132856 

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Originally Posted by Know666
CT... You've come this far. Finish the journey so we all know exactly what we are in for in the future!!! angry


oh for sure...i'm going to fight this. i'm going to tell the judge exactly what happened. i was not at fault for purchasing and using a legal exhaust and i am not at fault for being tested (TWICE!!) and pass and still not get dissmissed...i have jumped though all the hoops and they cannot tell me i'm in the wrong. if they do and the judge pulls in favor of having my exhaust modified i'll take more serious action...this process i have endured is unjust, it's harrassment, and totally un-warranted. again, i don't pay taxes for cops to pull people over with legal exhausts... angry

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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isaac Mar 24, 4:41pm - #132857 
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I hope this can help you CT...
its a list DIRECTLY from Toyota that shows that the exhaust with "PART NUMBER" is actually an available option from the dealership, to be used with optional aero-body style "Action Package"

Meaning.. its an OPTION available at the time of automobile purchase that is recommended for a particular street-legal vehicle design... a design that has no difference from any other vehicle of its class on the sales lot other than the addition of a few body ground effects - appearance only
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Evan Mar 24, 4:42pm - #132858 

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Originally Posted by StoneSour
That sucks thumbsdown

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Evan Mar 24, 4:45pm - #132859 

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^^ isaac, that reminds me of the people who get tickets for FACTORY HIDs.. ridiculous thumbsdown

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isaac Mar 24, 4:49pm - #132860 
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Originally Posted by Evan
^^ isaac, that reminds me of the people who get tickets for FACTORY HIDs.. ridiculous thumbsdown


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Mizery_Machine Mar 24, 4:49pm - #132861 
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by CID498
Theyre just fucking with you Christian and that aint cool at all, I mean shit man the chp motorcycles are louder than hell and don't get me started on the harley people. Just do what ya gotta do man and get it over with. Sucks man

Yeah, harleys are MAD loud. No way in hell your cars louder than that!


^^^^ Agreed

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ct Mar 24, 4:50pm - #132862 

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Originally Posted by isaac
I hope this can help you CT...
its a list DIRECTLY from Toyota that shows that the exhaust with "PART NUMBER" is actually an available option from the dealership, to be used with optional aero-body style "Action Package"

Meaning.. its an OPTION available at the time of automobile purchase that is recommended for a particular street-legal vehicle design... a design that has no difference from any other vehicle of its class on the sales lot other than the addition of a few body ground effects - appearance only


awesome isaac...any ammunition i take to court helps. i'm going out guns blazing...lol thumbsup rice

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yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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isaac Mar 24, 5:00pm - #132863 
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ct - during your next trip to ANY toyota dealership, ask for a copy of the TRD catalog page that lists the TRD exhaust for Toyota Celica... (or even the free brochure). In that publication it is written "Emissions legal in all 50 states and meets DOT 95dB noise requirements."

Although the court can always say that the volume may change during the life of the part - or that the addition/modification of other parts (such as adding an Intake) may modify the sound results... you can always reply back that you purchased the exhaust for your vehicle with the impression and under the intention that you would be completely legal using this higher costing full exhaust system ($500) as apposed to a less expensive $100 exhaust system that does no come with the same certifications.

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ct Mar 24, 5:11pm - #132864 

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Originally Posted by isaac
ct - during your next trip to ANY toyota dealership, ask for a copy of the TRD catalog page that lists the TRD exhaust for Toyota Celica... (or even the free brochure). In that publication it is written "Emissions legal in all 50 states and meets DOT 95dB noise requirements."

Although the court can always say that the volume may change during the life of the part - or that the addition/modification of other parts (such as adding an Intake) may modify the sound results... you can always reply back that you purchased the exhaust for your vehicle with the impression and under the intention that you would be completely legal using this higher costing full exhaust system ($500) as apposed to a less expensive $100 exhaust system that does no come with the same certifications.


that is a great idea!!! i'm dropping over the nearest toyo to pick one up. thanks agian isaac! i'm calling up TRD for their test sheets on the exhaust...

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Evan Mar 24, 5:21pm - #132865 

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by isaac
ct - during your next trip to ANY toyota dealership, ask for a copy of the TRD catalog page that lists the TRD exhaust for Toyota Celica... (or even the free brochure). In that publication it is written "Emissions legal in all 50 states and meets DOT 95dB noise requirements."

Although the court can always say that the volume may change during the life of the part - or that the addition/modification of other parts (such as adding an Intake) may modify the sound results... you can always reply back that you purchased the exhaust for your vehicle with the impression and under the intention that you would be completely legal using this higher costing full exhaust system ($500) as apposed to a less expensive $100 exhaust system that does no come with the same certifications.


that is a great idea!!! i'm dropping over the nearest toyo to pick one up. thanks agian isaac! i'm calling up trd for their test sheets on the exhaust...


good luck thumbsup

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ct Mar 24, 5:27pm - #132866 

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Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by isaac
ct - during your next trip to ANY toyota dealership, ask for a copy of the TRD catalog page that lists the TRD exhaust for Toyota Celica... (or even the free brochure). In that publication it is written "Emissions legal in all 50 states and meets DOT 95dB noise requirements."

Although the court can always say that the volume may change during the life of the part - or that the addition/modification of other parts (such as adding an Intake) may modify the sound results... you can always reply back that you purchased the exhaust for your vehicle with the impression and under the intention that you would be completely legal using this higher costing full exhaust system ($500) as apposed to a less expensive $100 exhaust system that does no come with the same certifications.


that is a great idea!!! i'm dropping over the nearest toyo to pick one up. thanks agian isaac! i'm calling up trd for their test sheets on the exhaust...


good luck thumbsup


hopefully everything goes well and this whole procedure i went through becomes a blueprint for anyone who was un-justly dragged to court for a legal exhaust. thumbsup

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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ct Mar 25, 3:06pm - #132867 

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just an update...i talked to a guy at TRD from orange county and he said he will mail me all the test results TRD did, lus all chp bulletins that confirm my legality, and documents from sema to help prove my case. he's actually looking out for me to try to get myself out of the court hearing and get it dismissed...wow...TRD is really lookin'out... thumbsup

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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AZZKIKR Mar 25, 4:16pm - #132868 

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that's awesome...keep us updated bro
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tru_Asiatik_Pride Mar 25, 4:36pm - #132869 

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ct you know all of us are behind you 100% so best of luck 2 u. i hope TRD can help you out avoiding the court but if you have to go(and you prolly know this already) dont forget the fact how they condcted the testing you know they where suppose to test it from 20 ft away and only up to 3000 rpm which they didnt(bastards)also if you can try to contact SEMA and ask the "actual procedures" for testing it and try to get it documented
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Bakablo1 Mar 25, 11:34pm - #132870 
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ct Mar 29, 9:29pm - #132871 

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just to update you guys...


i ust got the information package from TRD. included are:

-a record of conversation between the TRD official and the chp on sae testing standards and procedures. stating that the engine be reved at 3-5K rpm...as stated i was tested at a very high 5700rpm @ 96.5db with a barely pass status...had i been tested at 3-5K i would have past with flying colors.

-a revised TRD certificate saying that the exhaust has met rigorous testing requirements as per sae requirements.

-a chart of gts testing db per rpm. it clearly shows a 88-90db at or between 3-5K rpm...a max 5775 rpm was tested at 93db...(but who drives around at 5775 rpms??? unless you're racing??)...

chp bulletins on how to adress issue as a correctible violation. so appearance in court should be nullified if ticket has been stamped with corrected violation stamp (which mine was)

-SEMA bulletins on how testing procedures went about...

THANKS TRD FOR LOOKING OUT.!!!! thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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Evan Mar 29, 9:30pm - #132872 

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ct Mar 30, 10:44pm - #132873 

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this is the certificate i got from TRD...it's different from the one that comes with the exhaust...

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Originally posted by SKOOF:
yoru such a clown, i wish you lived in nyc, i would love to just give you the beating that youve probably never gotten in your life.
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