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Mar 21, 9:08pm - #131416 
lowering question

ok so i wanted to get my car lowered(2inches) but my parents said no because they talked to people at les schwab(i think) and said that it really wears away your tires tread. Since they knew this, i cant get my car lowered now. Is this true? does it really mess up your car. i need to convince them that its ok. thanks!

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Mar 21, 9:12pm - #131417 
yes it does wears out ur tires quicker, but you can get a camber kit to fix that problem.

The only reason i cant lower my car rite now is that i wont be able to go up my driveway. angry


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Mar 21, 9:13pm - #131418 
the only way it will wear your tires any faster then stock is if your stupid and do not purchase a camber correction kit, other than that it will be just the same but a little lower. camber being the tires perpendicularness(word or not???) to the road, if you lower it your tires will slant inwords and youll run on the insides of the treads(that will wear tires) with a correction kit it will make them level again. try that, good luck thumbsup


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Mar 21, 9:15pm - #131419 
thanks alot! where and how much can i get a camber correction kit?? thanks again

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Mar 21, 9:17pm - #131420 
i believe they are around the area of 60-120 bucks (i could be wrong my car came with one)


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Mar 22, 12:54am - #131421 
if you dont drop it too much, you wont need camber links. all you need is an alignment, and you're set.

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Mar 22, 5:22am - #131422 
^ True

Aslong as you don't go over two inche you'll be find.

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Mar 22, 9:26am - #131423 
Originally Posted by v3n0m
^ True

Aslong as you don't go over two inche you'll be find.


For hotchkis springs (even though they are a 1.8" drop) they do recomend you adjust your camber.

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Mar 22, 9:28am - #131424 
I have pillow mounts, that's why I forgot about the front spineyes

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Mar 22, 5:49pm - #131425 
thanks a lot everyone! but now they say they dont want me to mess up my car by going over bumps or potholes...they are just mad that i have a better car then them

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Mar 22, 7:20pm - #131426 
camber links fix that problem...and don't lower it that much then and you won't have it.


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Mar 22, 8:25pm - #131427 
Well, in the front camber does not change much since it is a macpherson setup. The back is a double wishbone setup and the more the wheel gets closer to the body the more camber it gets. While this is good for stock height for cornering, once you lower the car it starts with more camber and hense more inner tire wear. As stated the camber links and an alignment will get it in check and it will take care of the camber. Only thing is, you're tire tread will probably still wear out quicker because you'll be enjoying the better handling of the car smile

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Mar 22, 8:29pm - #131428 
would i be fine if i only dropped my car 1.4"?


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Mar 22, 8:30pm - #131429 
Originally Posted by bmw52786
would i be fine if i only dropped my car 1.4"?


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Mar 22, 8:33pm - #131430 
alright thanks


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Mar 22, 8:37pm - #131431 
i just learned this the hard way. i had camber links but i was too lazy to install them. now i need to rear tires after 2000 miles. eek this sucks
but i just bought 4 bridgestone fuzions zr1's

but no celly for 2 days. i gotta borrow a 04 grandprix from my dad till my tires come in.

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Mar 22, 8:39pm - #131432 
ouch how much did you lower your car??


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Mar 22, 9:47pm - #131433 
just tell your parents its your car and you should be free to do what you want,unless of course they are paying for it, either way tell them youll be safe and if lowering a car was so dangerous why do thousands and thousands of people do it


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Mar 22, 9:49pm - #131434 
so if i lower my car only 1.5" i will be safe?

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Mar 23, 6:16am - #131435 
wath is 1"5 is it over 30mm


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Mar 23, 6:37am - #131436 
where or what brand cambers would you guys recommend...

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Mar 23, 7:11am - #131437 
Hotchkis makes a front & rear camber kit.

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Mar 23, 10:38am - #131438 
Hotchkis camber parts run about $300.00 for the front and $250.00 for the rear

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Mar 23, 11:33am - #131439 
Camber kit is a waste of money. I have Eibach Sporlines, and I didn't need a camber kit. All you need a good alignment. A good alignment shop will be able to correct your neg. camber back to factory spec. I have my shop adjust the front to -0.1. A little bit of negative camber will help with handling. And since it just a little bit, it won't wear out your tires. I have been driving on the current set of Toyo FZ4 for over a year now. The tires are wearing out evenly.

How the tires wear really depend on driving conditions, driving habits, and the quality of the tires. To say that lowered cars wear out tires faster is ridiculous, IMO.

BTW, if you want to spend $300 on a Hotchkis camber kit, go for it. It is your money and it definitely wouldn't hurt to have it. But, that's money that could be spent somewhere else. smile


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Mar 23, 12:10pm - #131440 
so your saying that an alignment place can fix that for less money than a kit?

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Mar 23, 12:15pm - #131441 
Yeah, the stock rear camber links are adjustable.

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Mar 23, 1:13pm - #131442 
Originally Posted by XplodCelica0708

so your saying that an alignment place can fix that for less money than a kit?


yup. four wheel computerized alignment cost me $65. And you have to get an alignment anyway if you change out your springs.


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Mar 23, 1:38pm - #131443 
Originally Posted by tony
Camber kit is a waste of money. I have Eibach Sporlines, and I didn't need a camber kit. All you need a good alignment. A good alignment shop will be able to correct your neg. camber back to factory spec. I have my shop adjust the front to -0.1. A little bit of negative camber will help with handling. And since it just a little bit, it won't wear out your tires. I have been driving on the current set of Toyo FZ4 for over a year now. The tires are wearing out evenly.

How the tires wear really depend on driving conditions, driving habits, and the quality of the tires. To say that lowered cars wear out tires faster is ridiculous, IMO.

BTW, if you want to spend $300 on a Hotchkis camber kit, go for it. It is your money and it definitely wouldn't hurt to have it. But, that's money that could be spent somewhere else. smile


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ya lol that helps...

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