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lowering question #131416 Mar 21, 9:08pm Mar 21, 9:08pm
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lowering question
ok so i wanted to get my car lowered(2inches) but my parents said no because they talked to people at les schwab(i think) and said that it really wears away your tires tread. Since they knew this, i cant get my car lowered now. Is this true? does it really mess up your car. i need to convince them that its ok. thanks!

Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131417 Mar 21, 9:12pm Mar 21, 9:12pm
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yes it does wears out ur tires quicker, but you can get a camber kit to fix that problem.

The only reason i cant lower my car rite now is that i wont be able to go up my driveway. angry


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Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131418 Mar 21, 9:13pm Mar 21, 9:13pm
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the only way it will wear your tires any faster then stock is if your stupid and do not purchase a camber correction kit, other than that it will be just the same but a little lower. camber being the tires perpendicularness(word or not???) to the road, if you lower it your tires will slant inwords and youll run on the insides of the treads(that will wear tires) with a correction kit it will make them level again. try that, good luck thumbsup


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Re: lowering question [Re: eric_h] #131419 Mar 21, 9:15pm Mar 21, 9:15pm
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thanks alot! where and how much can i get a camber correction kit?? thanks again

Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131420 Mar 21, 9:17pm Mar 21, 9:17pm
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i believe they are around the area of 60-120 bucks (i could be wrong my car came with one)


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Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131421 Mar 22, 12:54am Mar 22, 12:54am
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if you dont drop it too much, you wont need camber links. all you need is an alignment, and you're set.

Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131422 Mar 22, 5:22am Mar 22, 5:22am
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^ True

Aslong as you don't go over two inche you'll be find.

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Originally Posted by v3n0m
^ True

Aslong as you don't go over two inche you'll be find.


For hotchkis springs (even though they are a 1.8" drop) they do recomend you adjust your camber.

Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131424 Mar 22, 9:28am Mar 22, 9:28am
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I have pillow mounts, that's why I forgot about the front spineyes

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thanks a lot everyone! but now they say they dont want me to mess up my car by going over bumps or potholes...they are just mad that i have a better car then them

Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131426 Mar 22, 7:20pm Mar 22, 7:20pm
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camber links fix that problem...and don't lower it that much then and you won't have it.


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Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131427 Mar 22, 8:25pm Mar 22, 8:25pm
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Well, in the front camber does not change much since it is a macpherson setup. The back is a double wishbone setup and the more the wheel gets closer to the body the more camber it gets. While this is good for stock height for cornering, once you lower the car it starts with more camber and hense more inner tire wear. As stated the camber links and an alignment will get it in check and it will take care of the camber. Only thing is, you're tire tread will probably still wear out quicker because you'll be enjoying the better handling of the car smile

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would i be fine if i only dropped my car 1.4"?


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Originally Posted by bmw52786
would i be fine if i only dropped my car 1.4"?


yea


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Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131430 Mar 22, 8:33pm Mar 22, 8:33pm
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alright thanks


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Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131431 Mar 22, 8:37pm Mar 22, 8:37pm
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i just learned this the hard way. i had camber links but i was too lazy to install them. now i need to rear tires after 2000 miles. eek this sucks
but i just bought 4 bridgestone fuzions zr1's

but no celly for 2 days. i gotta borrow a 04 grandprix from my dad till my tires come in.

Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131432 Mar 22, 8:39pm Mar 22, 8:39pm
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ouch how much did you lower your car??


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Re: lowering question [Re: cycocelica] #131433 Mar 22, 9:47pm Mar 22, 9:47pm
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just tell your parents its your car and you should be free to do what you want,unless of course they are paying for it, either way tell them youll be safe and if lowering a car was so dangerous why do thousands and thousands of people do it


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so if i lower my car only 1.5" i will be safe?

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wath is 1"5 is it over 30mm

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where or what brand cambers would you guys recommend...

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Hotchkis makes a front & rear camber kit.

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Hotchkis camber parts run about $300.00 for the front and $250.00 for the rear

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Camber kit is a waste of money. I have Eibach Sporlines, and I didn't need a camber kit. All you need a good alignment. A good alignment shop will be able to correct your neg. camber back to factory spec. I have my shop adjust the front to -0.1. A little bit of negative camber will help with handling. And since it just a little bit, it won't wear out your tires. I have been driving on the current set of Toyo FZ4 for over a year now. The tires are wearing out evenly.

How the tires wear really depend on driving conditions, driving habits, and the quality of the tires. To say that lowered cars wear out tires faster is ridiculous, IMO.

BTW, if you want to spend $300 on a Hotchkis camber kit, go for it. It is your money and it definitely wouldn't hurt to have it. But, that's money that could be spent somewhere else. smile


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so your saying that an alignment place can fix that for less money than a kit?

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Yeah, the stock rear camber links are adjustable.

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Originally Posted by XplodCelica0708

so your saying that an alignment place can fix that for less money than a kit?


yup. four wheel computerized alignment cost me $65. And you have to get an alignment anyway if you change out your springs.


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Originally Posted by tony
Camber kit is a waste of money. I have Eibach Sporlines, and I didn't need a camber kit. All you need a good alignment. A good alignment shop will be able to correct your neg. camber back to factory spec. I have my shop adjust the front to -0.1. A little bit of negative camber will help with handling. And since it just a little bit, it won't wear out your tires. I have been driving on the current set of Toyo FZ4 for over a year now. The tires are wearing out evenly.

How the tires wear really depend on driving conditions, driving habits, and the quality of the tires. To say that lowered cars wear out tires faster is ridiculous, IMO.

BTW, if you want to spend $300 on a Hotchkis camber kit, go for it. It is your money and it definitely wouldn't hurt to have it. But, that's money that could be spent somewhere else. smile


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