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Mad_Game Mar 21, 8:58pm - #130806 
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Hood Pins a must have on Carbon Fiber Hood?

I really like the ViS Invader Hood (they're having a GB on it here) but the only thing that kills the look are those Hood pinS! grrr, would it be possible not to have the Hood pins on this beautiful Hood? Maybe like pop the Hood and tape a brick to the bottom it and close the Hood, and wallah!
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 9:00pm - #130807 

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do NOT get a carbon fiber Hood without Hood pins.

it's extremely unsafe and can be extremely dangerous (for both you and others driving around you).

if you get a carbon fiber Hood, it is highly, HIGHLY recommended that you get hoodpins...it's just not worth it to do otherwise.
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Mad_Game Mar 21, 9:02pm - #130808 
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
do NOT get a carbon fiber Hood without Hood pins.

it's extremely unsafe and can be extremely dangerous (for both you and others driving around you).

if you get a carbon fiber hood, it is highly, HIGHLY recommended that you get hoodpins...it's just not worth it to do otherwise.
ic, how do Hood pins work? are they just bolted on to weigh it down?
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celicaTRDgts Mar 21, 9:04pm - #130809 

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dont clip on to something...so the Hood doesnt fly off confused

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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 9:04pm - #130810 

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each 'pin' is actually a few parts. a 'base' attaches to a place in your engine bay (not on the Hood) while the 'pin' is attached to your Hood. a hole is made so that the Hood is allowed to go through the 'base' and the pin closes on top of it.

simplified explanation, hopefully you ge the point.
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cycocelica Mar 21, 9:05pm - #130811 

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yeah man..dont get a Carbon Fiber Hood without them...ive seen what happens when you dont have them...bad news
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 9:05pm - #130812 

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Originally Posted by celicaTRDgts
dont clip on to something...so the Hood doesnt fly off confused


kind of. read above.
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Mad_Game Mar 21, 9:07pm - #130813 
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
each 'pin' is actually a few parts. a 'base' attaches to a place in your engine bay (not on the Hood) while the 'pin' is attached to your Hood. a hole is made so that the Hood is allowed to go through the 'base' and the pin closes on top of it.

simplified explanation, hopefully you ge the point.
oo i c, they shouldve made the pin inside the Hood, like an extra layer or something, watch someone is going to copy my idea and become a millionaire smile
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 9:09pm - #130814 

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Originally Posted by Mad_Game
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
each 'pin' is actually a few parts. a 'base' attaches to a place in your engine bay (not on the Hood) while the 'pin' is attached to your Hood. a hole is made so that the Hood is allowed to go through the 'base' and the pin closes on top of it.

simplified explanation, hopefully you ge the point.
oo i c, they shouldve made the pin inside the Hood, like an extra layer or something, watch someone is going to copy my idea and become a millionaire smile


haha, perhaps. but then how would you hook/unhook it?
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 9:11pm - #130815 

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although hoods do look better without them, sparco hoodpins don't look THAT bad thumbsup
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Mad_Game Mar 21, 9:13pm - #130816 
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true, i think im just gonna settle with a hoodscope than. its sad how something so little can make me change my mind! im so picky i need to shoot myself
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LostAngel Mar 21, 9:14pm - #130817 
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
each 'pin' is actually a few parts. a 'base' attaches to a place in your engine bay (not on the Hood) while the 'pin' is attached to your Hood. a hole is made so that the Hood is allowed to go through the 'base' and the pin closes on top of it.

simplified explanation, hopefully you ge the point.


Exactly! thumbsup
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LostAngel Mar 21, 9:17pm - #130818 
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Originally Posted by Mad_Game

true, i think im just gonna settle with a hoodscope than. its sad how something so little can make me change my mind! im so picky i need to shoot myself

I know this is a dumb idea...but it might work instead of Hood pins. You guys know on a tonneau (sp?) cover on trucks? The soft kind I mean, is 'snapped' to a frame that is connected to the bed. Well, whats to say you cant attatch those kind of snaps on the two corners of the Hood? That way they could snap to the other connecter? Think of the snaps on jeans... confused
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Mad_Game Mar 21, 9:19pm - #130819 
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by Mad_Game
true, i think im just gonna settle with a hoodscope than. its sad how something so little can make me change my mind! im so picky i need to shoot myself

I know this is a dumb idea...but it might work instead of Hood pins. You guys know on a tonneau (sp?) covor on trucks? The soft kind I mean, is 'snapped' to a frame that is connected to the bed. Well, whats to say you cant attatch those kind of snaps on the two corners of the Hood? That way they could snap to the other connecter? Think of the snaps on jeans... confused
that would be so great if they made that thumbsup
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LostAngel Mar 21, 9:20pm - #130820 
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Originally Posted by Mad_Game
Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by Mad_Game
true, i think im just gonna settle with a hoodscope than. its sad how something so little can make me change my mind! im so picky i need to shoot myself

I know this is a dumb idea...but it might work instead of Hood pins. You guys know on a tonneau (sp?) covor on trucks? The soft kind I mean, is 'snapped' to a frame that is connected to the bed. Well, whats to say you cant attatch those kind of snaps on the two corners of the Hood? That way they could snap to the other connecter? Think of the snaps on jeans... confused
that would be so great if they made that thumbsup

Actually, couldnt you make it? I dont see it being THAT hard.
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 9:21pm - #130821 

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Originally Posted by Mad_Game
Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by Mad_Game
true, i think im just gonna settle with a hoodscope than. its sad how something so little can make me change my mind! im so picky i need to shoot myself

I know this is a dumb idea...but it might work instead of Hood pins. You guys know on a tonneau (sp?) covor on trucks? The soft kind I mean, is 'snapped' to a frame that is connected to the bed. Well, whats to say you cant attatch those kind of snaps on the two corners of the Hood? That way they could snap to the other connecter? Think of the snaps on jeans... confused
that would be so great if they made that thumbsup


the problem with that is the snaps are not very strong. it works in a truck bed because the wind isn't a factor in trying to rip them off (wind flows over the bed instead of into the gaps).

in a Hood, air is being forced out of the way and wind is pushing up on the Hood. at freeway speeds, it would be enough to rip the Hood up and maybe off.
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 9:23pm - #130822 

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what they really need to do is just make a carbon fiber Hood that integrates the stock 'hook and latch'.

i don't see it being overly difficult to attach a metal, stock-like latch to catch the stock hook.
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LostAngel Mar 21, 9:24pm - #130823 
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by Mad_Game
Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by Mad_Game
true, i think im just gonna settle with a hoodscope than. its sad how something so little can make me change my mind! im so picky i need to shoot myself

I know this is a dumb idea...but it might work instead of Hood pins. You guys know on a tonneau (sp?) covor on trucks? The soft kind I mean, is 'snapped' to a frame that is connected to the bed. Well, whats to say you cant attatch those kind of snaps on the two corners of the Hood? That way they could snap to the other connecter? Think of the snaps on jeans... confused
that would be so great if they made that thumbsup


the problem with that is the snaps are not very strong. it works in a truck bed because the wind isn't a factor in trying to rip them off (wind flows over the bed instead of into the gaps).

in a hood, air is being forced out of the way and wind is pushing up on the hood. at freeway speeds, it would be enough to rip the hood up and maybe off.

Good point. I thought maybe they sold stronger ones..oh well. thumbsup
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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 9:29pm - #130824 

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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by Mad_Game
Originally Posted by LostAngel
[quote=Mad_Game]true, i think im just gonna settle with a hoodscope than. its sad how something so little can make me change my mind! im so picky i need to shoot myself

I know this is a dumb idea...but it might work instead of Hood pins. You guys know on a tonneau (sp?) covor on trucks? The soft kind I mean, is 'snapped' to a frame that is connected to the bed. Well, whats to say you cant attatch those kind of snaps on the two corners of the Hood? That way they could snap to the other connecter? Think of the snaps on jeans... confused
that would be so great if they made that thumbsup


the problem with that is the snaps are not very strong. it works in a truck bed because the wind isn't a factor in trying to rip them off (wind flows over the bed instead of into the gaps).

in a hood, air is being forced out of the way and wind is pushing up on the hood. at freeway speeds, it would be enough to rip the hood up and maybe off.

Good point. I thought maybe they sold stronger ones..oh well. thumbsup [/quote]

as far as i know, they don't make ones strong enough. besides, if they did make them that strong, what would the point be on a bed cover? you wouldnt be able to pop it off using your hands.
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LostAngel Mar 21, 9:33pm - #130825 
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by Mad_Game
[quote=LostAngel][quote=Mad_Game]true, i think im just gonna settle with a hoodscope than. its sad how something so little can make me change my mind! im so picky i need to shoot myself

I know this is a dumb idea...but it might work instead of Hood pins. You guys know on a tonneau (sp?) covor on trucks? The soft kind I mean, is 'snapped' to a frame that is connected to the bed. Well, whats to say you cant attatch those kind of snaps on the two corners of the Hood? That way they could snap to the other connecter? Think of the snaps on jeans... confused
that would be so great if they made that thumbsup


the problem with that is the snaps are not very strong. it works in a truck bed because the wind isn't a factor in trying to rip them off (wind flows over the bed instead of into the gaps).

in a hood, air is being forced out of the way and wind is pushing up on the hood. at freeway speeds, it would be enough to rip the hood up and maybe off.

Good point. I thought maybe they sold stronger ones..oh well. thumbsup [/quote]

as far as i know, they don't make ones strong enough. besides, if they did make them that strong, what would the point be on a bed cover? you wouldnt be able to pop it off using your hands. [/quote]
Thats where the crowbar comes in...lol just kidding. I agree with you, Hood pins are the only logical way to go if you go Carbon Fiber Hood.
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Tein_Celica Mar 21, 10:16pm - #130826 

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Actually, i have the invader Carbon Fiber Hood and the latch is very strong i couldn't see it breaking off. i was going to get hoodpins but now i doubt i will. the Hood seems to be very secure.

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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 10:20pm - #130827 

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Originally Posted by Tein_Celica
Actually, i have the invader Carbon Fiber hood and the latch is very strong i couldn't see it breaking off. i was going to get hoodpins but now i doubt i will. the hood seems to be very secure.


so the Hood does come with a latch installed?
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Mad_Game Mar 21, 10:22pm - #130828 
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Originally Posted by Tein_Celica
Actually, i have the invader Carbon Fiber hood and the latch is very strong i couldn't see it breaking off. i was going to get hoodpins but now i doubt i will. the hood seems to be very secure.
can you post some pics of ur car, i am very interested in seeing this.
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Tein_Celica Mar 21, 10:43pm - #130829 

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Here are some pics. Ya it comes with a latch and i can't see it breaking off anytime soon.
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Tein_Celica Mar 21, 10:44pm - #130830 

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pretty nice fit
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Mike00 Mar 21, 10:49pm - #130831 
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Yah my Carbon Fiber Hood has a latch to. I've never seen the need for the Hood pins myself.
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Originally Posted by Tein_Celica
Here are some pics. Ya it comes with a latch and i can't see it breaking off anytime soon.


nice, wasn't aware of that. what's the latch held onto though? it says hoodpins are recommended for the invader confused
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Tein_Celica Mar 21, 11:03pm - #130834 

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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
Originally Posted by Tein_Celica
Here are some pics. Ya it comes with a latch and i can't see it breaking off anytime soon.


nice, wasn't aware of that. what's the latch held onto though? it says hoodpins are recommended for the invader confused


I have no idea what its held on with. i mean for added securty hoodpins would be great, but i am really afraid of drilling through my Hood.

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Speed4TheNeed Mar 21, 11:08pm - #130835 

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this is what VIS has to say:

"As with any carbon fiber Hood, Hood pins are highly recomended for added safety."
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Sik_Wit_It Mar 22, 12:35am - #130836 

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yes i've seen some very bad things with no hoodpins

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CeLlYgT04 Mar 22, 12:41am - #130837 

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If you're risky, don't get the hoodpins...If you like to play it safe, get them grin
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Originally Posted by CeLlYgT04
If you're risky, don't get the hoodpins...If you like to play it safe, get them grin


I live on the edge.
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yes.. Hood pins are a MUST HAVE for Carbon Fiber HOODS.. that black celica looks like ricey gts' celica.. smile just wanted to add that

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Speed4TheNeed Mar 22, 12:54pm - #130840 

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Originally Posted by Stephen
Originally Posted by CeLlYgT04
If you're risky, don't get the hoodpins...If you like to play it safe, get them grin


I live on the edge.


not recommended. you (or someone else) can fall off thumbsdown
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Originally Posted by Stephen
Originally Posted by CeLlYgT04
If you're risky, don't get the hoodpins...If you like to play it safe, get them grin


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its not the latch you have to worry about... its the Hood pieces separating grin

take your newly installed Carbon Fiber Hood out on the freeway speeds (65 or faster) and watch that puppy shake wave then come back here and reply if you feel safe WITHOUT Hood pins installed

since you're placing your metal/aluminum Hood with a resin/fiberglass/carbon fiber Hood that can easily snap... especially with the raised Hood scoop causing much more drag... its safer to install Hood pins, than to have your shiny new Hood fly up into your face, killing you and/or anyone else...

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Readin this thread reminded me on tommy boy when the Hood flew up on the highway

Richard: I remember when we stopped you put the oil in.

Tommy:well if your saying i didnt use the right kind your wrong and besides motor oil has nothing to do with this.

Richard: Well you cant latch the Hood to well IF YOU DONT TAKE THE CAN OUT you waste of space.
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The fastest you can legally drive around here is 100 KPH (figure that out for yourselves in MPH) but it's not that fast...and that's on the main highway. Around town I'm lucky to get out of second gear. I feel safe for now.
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