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last night after picking up my trd struts out of warranty i decided to take the freeway home (118/405). well before merging to another freeway i was pulled over. he did the whole bit about my exhaust being modified and it was too loud so i gave him the certificate explaining that the exhaust complies with all sound laws and is 50-state emissions legal. of course for some reason he doesn't buy it and gave me a ticket for a "loud" exhaust. he says that i need to go to a state referee to asses the sound and if it is okay he can write off the ticket...no harm no foul. i have called everywhere to find out where this state referee is and i can't find one!!!...just pisses me off policemen abuse their power like that, are ignorant, and try to be a dick just to make quota. i even gave him write up's of alphasubzero's violation codes that plainly says my exhaust was legal...bastards angry

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why dont' they go find a drug dealer or a killer and leave us alone rolleyes thumbsdown

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Originally Posted by trog2233
why dont' they go find a drug dealer or a killer and leave us alone rolleyes thumbsdown

exactly...instaed of monitoring convicted rapists and child molestors they need to waste my time...i know those donut eating shits were having a good laugh about it on their coffee break last night. jeez...i pay taxes to line their wallets to give me a ticket for A LEGAL EXHAUST???!!!!...idiots angry

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what you got to do is go to court and bring the papers to the court house( in the city where the ticket was given to you) that says that your exhaust is legal.. You will plea not guilty..Then you will have to go to court again which will be the state court i believe they will make you go to local emssions station to get it tested and then go back to back to the court and show them that you passed... HASLE.. but keep in mind just because ur muffler says it legal. that dont mean that you chould have taking your cat out ,modded your cat ect.. not the cops fault for not believeing you, but his a fag for pulling you over on the freeway , i would understand if it was in the city,, sorry bro

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Stupid cops.. thumbsdown

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That sucks balls!!!


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well it shouldn't be too bad...i just made an appointement with the state referee. they'l measure the sound...if it doesn't pass the sound then i'm going to bitch at trd for false advertising...this is such a hassle.

the policeman says i don't have to appear in court if the state referee signs off on the ticket saying it's below 95db...

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It happened to me the 2nd day that I had the TRD exhaust installed. I was on the 605 going South. I showed the "chippy" my certificate and he let me go. smile


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dude that freakin sux angry angry its a waste of time & money. man that just pisses me off angry
well let us know what happens wit the referee how much are you paying for it? are they gonna give you a certificate to show that IT IS state db legal for future use? if so let me know where the place is maybe i should go there too just to show proof that my tsrm is also sound db legal

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wow... thats really gay.

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Originally Posted by tony
I showed the "chippy" my certificate and he let me go. smile

and that's how it should have went...but this cop was being a picky bitch. if i pass the state referee i give my results (or mail them) to the judge and everything is cool. if for some reason it doesn't pass the db level then i'll be bitching at TRD/toyota and have them pay for all the fines.

the sad thing is that i wasn't accelerating fast and kept my rpms low...i was merging to the 405 going 60...not speeding at all. so he sees an asian kid in a sporty car and thinks..."hmmmmmm i drive a piece of shit car at home, let's see if i can teach this little kid a lesson and be a dick and i'll be doing my quota a favor"...great to know my tax dollars at work. angry

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being in la problably didn't help. one of the capitals of street racing and domestic tuner markets. cop probably saw one too many fast and furious movies. cops, just like anybody, can be pricks. i just hate when they are behind me (had too many run ins with the law; jail time and everything).


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Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik_Pride
are they gonna give you a certificate to show that IT IS state db legal for future use? if so let me know where the place is maybe i should go there too just to show proof that my tsrm is also sound db legal
the state referee is at piece college...i think they said i don't have to pay a fee if everyting is okay...i dunnoo, i was too mad to even listen.yeah they should give you something so that this type of shit never happens again. my appointment is on tuesday the 23rd of march.

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Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik_Pride
are they gonna give you a certificate to show that IT IS state db legal for future use? if so let me know where the place is maybe i should go there too just to show proof that my tsrm is also sound db legal
the state referee is at piece college...i think they said i don't have to pay a fee if everyting is okay...i dunnoo, i was too mad to even listen.yeah they should give you something so that this type of shit never happens again. my appointment is on tuesday the 23rd of march.

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DAMN...glad I'm not in cali (for that reason anyway), sorry to hear about the cops being lazy over there...I'm thinking about getting Kazuma...I live in ATL, GA, and we have the "good 'ol boy patrol" which don't give a damn about the noise unless you're being aggressive, or hauling ass, or driving at 5K rpm through a neighborhood or churchzone...sorry to hear about that bro...

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik_Pride
are they gonna give you a certificate to show that IT IS state db legal for future use? if so let me know where the place is maybe i should go there too just to show proof that my tsrm is also sound db legal
the state referee is at piece college...i think they said i don't have to pay a fee if everyting is okay...i dunnoo, i was too mad to even listen.yeah they should give you something so that this type of shit never happens again. my appointment is on tuesday the 23rd of march.
oh really? i use to go there and my hommie is taking a dyno class there maybe he knows the ref most likely a carshop teacher ill ask him about it

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CT - get the cops badge number or name or something and file a formal complaint against him.

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Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik_Pride
Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by tru_Asiatik_Pride
are they gonna give you a certificate to show that IT IS state db legal for future use? if so let me know where the place is maybe i should go there too just to show proof that my tsrm is also sound db legal
the state referee is at piece college...i think they said i don't have to pay a fee if everyting is okay...i dunnoo, i was too mad to even listen.yeah they should give you something so that this type of shit never happens again. my appointment is on tuesday the 23rd of march.
oh really? i use to go there and my hommie is taking a dyno class there maybe he knows the ref most likely a carshop teacher ill ask him about it

thanks man...any info would help tremendously...just bitter that my tax dollars are being used to enforce noise levels on exhausts and i'm not seeing too much progress on homeland security, conviction of sex offenders, and murderers...

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
CT - get the cops badge number or name or something and file a formal complaint against him.

it's on the ticket thumbsup...first thing to do after i get this state referee thing all sqaured off so there is no doubt that what i have is tottaly leagal. then i'm going to be sending his superiors a nasty-gram... grin

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Originally Posted by ct
he did the whole bit about my exhaust being modified


https://celicahobby.com/tech/pdf/CHP_Bulletin-Exhaust.pdf

Modified exhausts are completely legal as of 2001, the only thing is though it can't exceed 95db. Which from what I hear is pretty damn loud! grin

You can have a 10 inch tip there if you wanted to as long as it is NOT harmful to other drivers, etc... but you get my point.

The key here is to prove it to officer before he writes the ticket or you will have to go to court and prove it to the judge. Big hassle.

so, just because the officer GUESSES that your exhaust is too loud, based on using his own ears, across the street and in his patrol car with the windows rolled up and the police radio turned on... he is going to be correct?

Last time I checked, the patrol cars didn't have sound level checking devices on them. But also, in California you are ALWAYS GUILTY until you can prove yourself innocent.

...

The key is not go get the ticket in the first place. The only way to do that is to convince the Officer not to write one. That means you have to education him/her on the violation in question.

In the case of the exhaust, even if the law says 95db is the limit, I don't think any officer can tell you precisely what db each exhaust is giving out. Therefore, he/she have to rely on common sense and experience.

no ticket=no need to go to court=no need to take time off=no hassle.

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on a side note, I found what I was looking for to replace the clown-horn that comes stock with the Celica rofl
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Originally Posted by isaac
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he did the whole bit about my exhaust being modified


https://celicahobby.com/tech/pdf/CHP_Bulletin-Exhaust.pdf

But also, in California you are ALWAYS GUILTY until you can prove yourself innocent.

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yeah i had all the documentation with me about the certain sections and noise decible information...he just brushed me off like a was a little kid. i guess i was just at the wrong place, at the wrong time, with the wrong cop. thumbsdown


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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by trog2233
why dont' they go find a drug dealer or a killer and leave us alone rolleyes thumbsdown

exactly...instaed of monitoring convicted rapists and child molestors they need to waste my time...i know those donut eating shits were having a good laugh about it on their coffee break last night. jeez...i pay taxes to line their wallets to give me a ticket for A LEGAL EXHAUST???!!!!...idiots angry

I agree...It seems like he was just looking for someone to pick on.


I don't understand how he could still ticket you, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LEGAL EXHAUST angry

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Stupid cops.. thumbsdown

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my friend has a thermal reaserch 3' cat back exhaust on his eclipse and he got pulled over for it. He had all that documentation on the 50 state emmisons legal also and the cop wouldnt except it, so he took it to court with him and they didnt except it either. thumbsdown


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Originally Posted by QuickChick03gt
my friend has a thermal reaserch 3' cat back exhaust on his eclipse and he got pulled over for it. He had all that documentation on the 50 state emmisons legal also and the cop wouldnt except it, so he took it to court with him and they didnt except it either. thumbsdown

yup...i hear people going to court with all documentation and still LOSE!!!...is that f'ed up or what?? well hopefully for me the state referee gives me a fair test and reads the exhaust at below 95db...then it's over-with.. thumbsup

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hahaha...yea...leave us Celica drivers alone...

Go eat some Donuts!!!

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damn cops.. instead of going 2 solve REAL crimes in the streets, they care about what a car's muffler sounds like... bleh rolleyes

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i got a ticket for my TSRM a while back when i had my permit...it was gay.


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i have the TRD exhaust as well and i was wondering for you that have the TRD where you guys got your certificates? I bought it and had it installed at my local toyota and they never gave me anything like that.


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whoa that sucks CT, i have the TRD exhaust with a removed resonator, so yeah that certificate is ALL that i have to prove my innocence, if i get that ticket i'm screwed. spineyes


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Originally Posted by VSGTS14
i got a ticket for my TSRM a while back when i had my permit...it was gay.
Was there anyway you could get out of it? Or did you?

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Originally Posted by JAY-C
i have the TRD exhaust as well and i was wondering for you that have the TRD where you guys got your certificates? I bought it and had it installed at my local toyota and they never gave me anything like that.
i got the certificate in the box that my TRD exhaust came in. now ive got the certificate, and the TRD kazuma iamstfu deal


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Cops are probably too scared to chase drug dealers, so they just hand out tickets to celica drivers.. awesome thumbsdown

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Originally Posted by Kim
whoa that sucks CT, i have the TRD exhaust with a removed resonator, so yeah that certificate is ALL that i have to prove my innocence, if i get that ticket i'm screwed. spineyes

if you go to a state referee and make an appointment that shows your car is below 95db...they'll give you a card or something to show next time you get pulled over...for Jay...you can contact TRD and they'll give you one. make sure you have reciepts, product #'s etc...basically you're not "screwed" but it's so much hassle go though procedures YOU DON'T HAVE TO IN THE FIRST PLACE!! angry

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I would love to know what kind of exhaust I have on my car, Its a stock tip, but like a 3.5 inch pipe the whole way back welded to the stock tip. Its loud as hell and sounds awesome, but I just dont now what it is... Benn pulled 4 times for it, no tickets yet tho grin

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Originally Posted by gtstrdstyle
I would love to know what kind of exhaust I have on my car, Its a stock tip, but like a 3.5 inch pipe the whole way back welded to the stock tip. Its loud as hell and sounds awesome, but I just dont now what it is... Benn pulled 4 times for it, no tickets yet tho grin
show us a pic but it sounds like a custom straight pipe with a stock tip which i believe would be illegal (like the kazuma) do you know if you still have the cat?

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that sucks some massive ass man, heh gotta love those retarded cops!

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My TRD exhaust was on my car when I bought it used but I don't have a certificate. What do I do about this?

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wow... thats really gay.

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by Kim
whoa that sucks CT, i have the TRD exhaust with a removed resonator, so yeah that certificate is ALL that i have to prove my innocence, if i get that ticket i'm screwed. spineyes

if you go to a state referee and make an appointment that shows your car is below 95db...they'll give you a card or something to show next time you get pulled over...for Jay...you can contact TRD and they'll give you one. make sure you have reciepts, product #'s etc...basically you're not "screwed" but it's so much hassle go though procedures YOU DON'T HAVE TO IN THE FIRST PLACE!! angry

my thoughts exactly...you don't have to do it in the first place and it's just an extra hassle.

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hahaha...yea...leave us Celica drivers alone...

Yeah, they should go bust some Hondas instead...haha ^^


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Check this out. I had the Kazuma for a while on my 2001 GT and in my neighborhood there is a Hi Po next door to me, the chief of city police a couple of houses down, and a town cop on the other side of me. I would rev it up just to piss them off. Luckily I never got pulled over for it. I just traded it for the normal TRD exhaust becuase I could not listen to my own self think when I was driving down the highway.


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Originally Posted by spectracel
Check this out. I had the Kazuma for a while on my 2001 GT and in my neighborhood there is a Hi Po next door to me, the chief of city police a couple of houses down, and a town cop on the other side of me. I would rev it up just to piss them off. Luckily I never got pulled over for it. I just traded it for the normal TRD exhaust becuase I could not listen to my own self think when I was driving down the highway.

lmao. around here cops are pretty strict on modded cars. it's just not worth it to get anything that isn't 50 state legal.

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Originally Posted by trog2233
why dont' they go find a drug dealer or a killer and leave us alone rolleyes thumbsdown

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rofl i thought trd sounds like stock practically?! thumbsup

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rofl i thought trd sounds like stock practically?! thumbsup

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