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Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? #117238 Mar 5, 12:19pm Mar 5, 12:19pm
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Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately?
I ordered and paid for JDM door sills back in September 2003 from TRDandJDM, and I still haven't received them. TRDandJDM hasn't replied to a single one of my emails in the past 2 months, nor any PM's, and I have no other way of getting in contact with him. The last I heard from him (in January) he said he shipped them out and would even fax me a copy of the shipping invoice. I gave him my fax number, but never received anything.

So, no shipping invoice that they were shipped, nor any door sills. I've been trying to get ahold of him now to get my money back, but it seems like he's ignoring my emails. Anyone have any advice on what I should do? Anyone have a phone number or something so I can get ahold of him?

Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: hupsohl] #117239 Mar 5, 12:20pm Mar 5, 12:20pm
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You aren't the first rolleyes

How did you pay him? Maybe you can pursue some sort of refund..


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Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: Evan] #117240 Mar 5, 12:23pm Mar 5, 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by Evan
You aren't the first rolleyes

How did you pay him? Maybe you can pursue some sort of refund..


I sent him a check...it was cashed on October 17, so not much I can do there as far as I know.

Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: hupsohl] #117241 Mar 5, 12:24pm Mar 5, 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by hupsohl
Originally Posted by Evan
You aren't the first rolleyes

How did you pay him? Maybe you can pursue some sort of refund..


I sent him a check...it was cashed on October 17, so not much I can do there as far as I know.


Well let's see.. your bank has a copy of the cancelled check with his signature on it. Maybe you need to contact the authorities.

Taking someone's money for a product that you never deliver is FRAUD, plain and simple angry


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Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: hupsohl] #117242 Mar 5, 12:43pm Mar 5, 12:43pm
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i was gonna get jdm side marker for him, but now i'm not to sure...

Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: ratfink] #117243 Mar 5, 12:45pm Mar 5, 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by ratfink
i was gonna get jdm side marker for him, but now i'm not to sure...


Do a search, tons of people were ripped off by him.

Personally, I *finally* got my stuff after MONTHS and innumerable pms, emails, and basically threats to get what I paid for.

It's not worth it. Buy it someone else for a little more money and save yourself the headache.


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Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: hupsohl] #117244 Mar 5, 2:47pm Mar 5, 2:47pm
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yea his fucked a lot of people over


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Originally Posted by celicaTRDgts
yea his fucked a lot of people over


I know. I can't even count how many people have pm'd me saying they've had similar experiences, and he always has the same lame excuses. I should've made a list of all the posts and all the pm's..


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I had the same experience: I paid him for a pair of TRD eyelid, two months ago I reveived a E-mail,and he said it's back order,and now he didn't rely any of my E-mail.

Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: hupsohl] #117248 Mar 5, 7:04pm Mar 5, 7:04pm
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I've been getting some emails from a few members looking for the whereabouts of TRDandJDM... He seems to have just dissapeared off the face of this site

After doing a bit of investigations, I found this thread... does anyone want to confirm if this is him or not ???
...


https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=1862407201#Post1862407201
(thread is located in staff forum for further review)

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I know that TRDandJDM's name is 'Chris' and that he is located in Toronto, Canada... so I find it strange that this person is also located in Toronto, Canada - and only just started coming around when TRDandJDM dissapeared.

..

What really makes no sense that "Karateman" would post his forsale items on this forum if he never intended to reply to all inqueries... and "Karateman" requests that you do no send him a PM because he never comes here... he also does NOT include an email address to contact him at,

Anyways - I have done reverse IP checking and these two people have exactly the same first name, exactly the same network internet provider, they live in the same country and Provence, and they log into the inet at about the same times...

Here is another one...
https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=1862414634#Post1862414634
(thread is located in staff forum for further review)

He says that he takes paypal, but he doesnt include a paypal address or even a public email address to do the proccessing through. Although, he did have to use an email address to register with this site, he has chosed to keep his email address private. Because I am an admin, I can see private email addresses - the one he used is " chan-chris@rogers.com "

My question is... is TRDandJDM's real name, 'Chris Chan' ???
and are these two account the same people???

This all seems quite fishy and I realy dont want to jump to conclusions - but things just dont add up in good direction.

Any input would be more than helpful... thanks guys thumbsup

(and NO, he does not owe me money, im just following up for a few people that have sent me email requests)


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Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: hupsohl] #117249 Mar 5, 7:13pm Mar 5, 7:13pm
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yea seems strange to me too... wtf


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spineyes spineyes hmmm...
he did reply to my mail back at may when i was interested in some stuffs...

but i never buy from him...so idk~


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Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: hupsohl] #117251 Mar 5, 10:15pm Mar 5, 10:15pm
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I feel sorry for those who lost money. I CANNOT stand dishonest people, and scammers. This guy needs put down angry

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Hey isaac, ok here's the thing. On his paypal account his name is listed as "Chris Wong" but when I received something I bought from him in the mail, the customs form had a different last name on it, and I can't remember what it is for the life of me. The first name was Chris, and it was from Toronto.


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So, find anything out, isaac?


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Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: Evan] #117254 Mar 8, 1:50pm Mar 8, 1:50pm
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awhile back (about a month or two ago) someone was looking for trdandjdm, found him, ordered, but never recieved the part(s) and didn't get his $$ back last time i had checked (don't know if it was resolved).


i would stay away from him (and for that matter 'karateman' as well). i also hate to jump to conclusions but like i say...i don't recommend anyone to be a guineapig and it's best to go with good reputations over unkown or muddied reputations.

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I thought this guy played it fair. eek



Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: Speed4TheNeed] #117256 Mar 8, 1:55pm Mar 8, 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by sPeEd4tHeNeEd
awhile back (about a month or two ago) someone was looking for trdandjdm, found him, ordered, but never recieved the part(s) and didn't get his $$ back last time i had checked (don't know if it was resolved).


i would stay away from him (and for that matter 'karateman' as well). i also hate to jump to conclusions but like i say...i don't recommend anyone to be a guineapig and it's best to go with good reputations over unkown or muddied reputations.


this is the link to the thread i was talking about:
https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthrea...#Post1869776327

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good god, i thought he was very reputable here. That bastard really knows what he's doing. Having sent some items as requested to the buyers even made it more realistic. I was so close in ordering the whole tvs system from him, fortunately it didn't go through THANK GOD!

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i think the main problem was - everyone saw his name around the boards, but no one really knew where he was based or anything about him - there was no one who had ever actually met him in person... so that made it very easy for him to get away with whatever happened.

There was no penalty to him if he made a bad sale, because no one knew anything about him, not even a real name - only an email address and it was just a throw-away/freebie YAHOO.com address. Ebay dosn't except free emails like someone@yahoo.com or someone@hotmail.com so why should you?


The best rule of thumb when purchasing from someone who does large number of sales on the inet is to ask yourself, "what does the seller have to loose if he doesn't produce what was agreed?" and "how well is is reputation with others in the community? Does he go to car meets too - do you know anyone else in his area that can vouch for him? how long has he been selling for?"

My final suggestion is if you are planning to buy an item from someone - that you ALWAYS request that a picture of the actual item be posted, linked-to or emailed... if someone wants to sell something urgent enough, that person WILL be find a way to send you an actual photo of the items.

If they say it's been sent, but you haven't received it yet, ask for a tracking number OR EVEN a scan of the postage receipt. This is good for showing EXACT date of shipment and the zip code it was shipped to.

The next thing to do is to always keep a copy of your receipt of payment - if the sale goes bad, you can have proof that your payment was cashed - you also have a signature and account number of the person who cashed your funds.

If you follow these basic guidelines, you will have less change of being taken.


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^^ words to live by, isaac thumbsup


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hey lets take a road trip to canada and trash him.. a least we can all get some sort of refund
cheers

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Originally Posted by VarneyTrd
hey lets take a road trip to canada and trash him.. a least we can all get some sort of refund
cheers


lollol Pick me up along the way.. laughsilly


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The only reason I ordered from this guy was because he was always selling stuff on this board and there were a lot of people who gave him good feedback. I kind of realized I was scammed when he kept putting off my questions with BS, and flaked when I asked him to send me the shipping confirmation.

Guess I learned my lesson...I should have gone with my original idea by ordering the door sills through the dealership...the things you do to try and save yourself a few bucks. :\

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I was going to order a JDM center console from him. I e-mailed him to see if he had any left. He responded pretty quickly that he did and that he wanted an international money order for whatever price. I didn't realize that he was a Canadian and felt unconfortable sending him $$$ because I would have no recourse if he didn't send the merch. The company I work for has a distributor based in Toronto. I called them up and asked my pal there if this guy's address was near them. My friend told me that it was actually on his way to work and he would be willing to buy it for me and send it directly. When I e-mailed this guy and asked if my friend could come by to pay him and pick up the console he replied "Sorry, pick up is not available". I thought it strange that the guy would not take COD on an item he had on hand. I responded to him "That's not going to work for me, no thank you". I never heard from him again.


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what you can do isaac is go to the logs and check the IP used by the user who did the frad. You can find out if he uses the same ip over and over which would mean its static. you would be able to find out if the same person has the same IP ADDRESSS. You would be also able to contact the police and tell them about the IP Address and they can get a Subpoena.

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Originally Posted by ravadude338
what you can do isaac is go to the logs and check the IP used by the user who did the fraud. You can find out if he uses the same ip over and over which would mean its static. you would be able to find out if the same person has the same IP ADDRESSS. You would be also able to contact the police and tell them about the IP Address and they can get a Subpoena.


Sounds familiar...

Originally Posted by isaac
I've been getting some emails from a few members looking for the whereabouts of TRDandJDM... He seems to have just dissapeared off the face of this site

After doing a bit of investigations, I found this thread... does anyone want to confirm if this is him or not ???
...


https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=1862407201#Post1862407201
(thread is located in staff forum for further review)

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I know that TRDandJDM's name is 'Chris' and that he is located in Toronto, Canada... so I find it strange that this person is also located in Toronto, Canada - and only just started coming around when TRDandJDM dissapeared.

..

What really makes no sense that "Karateman" would post his forsale items on this forum if he never intended to reply to all inqueries... and "Karateman" requests that you do no send him a PM because he never comes here... he also does NOT include an email address to contact him at,

Anyways - I have done reverse IP checking and these two people have exactly the same first name, exactly the same network internet provider, they live in the same country and Provence, and they log into the inet at about the same times...

Here is another one...
https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=1862414634#Post1862414634
(thread is located in staff forum for further review)

He says that he takes paypal, but he doesnt include a paypal address or even a public email address to do the proccessing through. Although, he did have to use an email address to register with this site, he has chosed to keep his email address private. Because I am an admin, I can see private email addresses - the one he used is " chan-chris@rogers.com "

My question is... is TRDandJDM's real name, 'Chris Chan' ???
and are these two account the same people???

This all seems quite fishy and I realy dont want to jump to conclusions - but things just dont add up in good direction.

Any input would be more than helpful... thanks guys thumbsup

(and NO, he does not owe me money, im just following up for a few people that have sent me email requests)


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sounds too sketchy to me. glad i got my produt from him and never ordered again. sure, mine took almost 2 months but at least i got it. sorry everyone else had problems...


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I order several items from him and I do have to admit they took a looooooong time arriving and sometimes I felt he was BSing me with his replies, I have to admit I always received them. By the way, good luck with your dispute.


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Anyone find it wierd that in this post
https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/thread.f_1869882042_0_collapsed_5__1.html
he was denying that it was him...but he didn't stop by this thread to defend himself...?


this is no longer a guys hobbie.





Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: Skyla] #117269 Mar 18, 2:41pm Mar 18, 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by Skyla
Anyone find it wierd that in this post
https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/thread.f_1869882042_0_collapsed_5__1.html
he was denying that it was him...but he didn't stop by this thread to defend himself...?


Don't forget this thread as well:

https://www.celicahobby.com/ubbthreads/thread.f_1869882052_0_collapsed_5__1.html


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Somone should bring that bugger down.

Also, incase it wasn't mentioned, when dealing with a cheque you should make it post-dated so he cannot cash it until a certain date comes around and if you do not recieve the product in the proper time frame you can cancel the cheque and you can save your money instead of being ripped off.


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Originally Posted by Vampyre
Somone should bring that bugger down.

Also, incase it wasn't mentioned, when dealing with a cheque you should make it post-dated so he cannot cash it until a certain date comes around and if you do not recieve the product in the proper time frame you can cancel the cheque and you can save your money instead of being ripped off.


As a matter of fact, once a check is signed, a bank may choose to honor it and it is perfectly legal to do so [even if the check has been post-dated].


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i was just over at celispeed (Cuz c7 is still down) and look what i came across...
http://celispeed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1104
which i find kinda wierd...


this is no longer a guys hobbie.





Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: Skyla] #117273 Mar 18, 4:59pm Mar 18, 4:59pm
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Originally Posted by Skyla
i was just over at celispeed (Cuz c7 is still down) and look what i came across...
http://celispeed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1104
which i find kinda wierd...


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Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: Spread Eagle] #117274 Apr 1, 4:19pm Apr 1, 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by Spread Eagle
I thought this guy played it fair. eek


Guess not!! thumbsdown



Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: hupsohl] #117275 Apr 1, 5:02pm Apr 1, 5:02pm
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Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: hupsohl] #117276 Apr 17, 8:45am Apr 17, 8:45am
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Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: Veilside] #117277 May 17, 1:53pm May 17, 1:53pm
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that sux.. i was gonna order my TRD fuel lid.. glad i didn't.. thumbsdown

Re: Anyone seen TRDandJDM lately? [Re: Justice] #117278 May 23, 11:14pm May 23, 11:14pm
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it's okay the karma ghost will get him. rofl

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