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slik_gts Mar 1, 12:54am - #114514 

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plz, help no braking power after putting new brake pads in!

hey wut's up guys? i have a little problem, no it's a big problem. i just changed my brake pads drove around for about 5 miles and i still have no braking power what so ever. my car keeps rolling and rolling and rolling. i did bleed my brakes to compress the piston, and my CEL is on too. my brake fluid level is at just below max. i have no idea what i di wrong. does, ne one know what i ca do to fix this. i followed the install guide step by step plz, help. oh also if i punch it or turn my e-brake light comes on for a second and goes away. i just changed my pads, i didn't put new rotors in. plz, help as this is crucial. thnx!!

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slik_gts Mar 1, 1:49am - #114515 

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thnx eyger, but someone's got to know wut i'm doing wrong or must have had the same problem!?!?!?!

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slik_gts Mar 1, 3:33pm - #114516 

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ok, i understand that i need to bleed the brakes! now you guys say that i need to bleed the brakes nicely. Wut do you mean by that! can i just loosen the bolt that the brake line is attached to and completely drain the brake fluid out and after that can i just fill up the brake fluid reservoir in the engine bay, or is it more complicated than that? will i have to loosen all bolts meaning where ever the brake line is attached to the caliper? so if someone could expalin this or clarify this then i can try to bleed my brakes. i just went around to different places in my dad's car and they all gave me estimates of $30 just to look at it and then what ever work it will need, obviously that will be extra. so guys, you have been so helpful so far, just clarify this bleeding procedure and hopefully that should be it. thnx!

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VarneyTrd Mar 1, 5:24pm - #114517 
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my first thought was that you needed to break your rotors in, but then i realized you got pad's spineyes
so you probably still have some air in your lines, just bleed them again and see if that works.
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CID498 Mar 1, 5:43pm - #114518 

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Yep sounds like you opened the bleeder valve to compress the piston and prolly left it open and the piston retracted therefore you got a shitload of air in there hopefully it didn't get into to the master cylinder.



The proper way to bleed brakes.


Have someone in the car pump the brake pedal three times and hold it down on the third pump.

Open the bleeder valve and let it purge the air (Do not let the brake pedal up before tighten up the bleeder valve!)

Repeat this as many times as neccasary and remember to keep the resevoir full!

Good luck.

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DiabloGTS Mar 1, 5:59pm - #114519 

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I think now that the $100 I spent having a shop install my 4 rotors and pads was worthwhile...

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CID498 Mar 1, 6:45pm - #114520 

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I'd have done them for you for "beer" diablo grin




If you know what yer doin brakes only take about an hour fer all four

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slik_gts Mar 1, 9:37pm - #114521 

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what happen if you get air in ur master cylinder? i've bled the brakes and my brakes are still the same, no braking what so ever!! i'm f*%@ed and broke and i'm going to die w/o brakes!!!

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CID498 Mar 1, 9:58pm - #114522 

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Did you do it as suggested in my post?

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stefanoc Mar 1, 10:08pm - #114523 

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Originally Posted by CID498
Did you do it as suggested in my post?


do wut he said. it should work 99%
u just have air in ur brake system. you cant do it urself. have someone inside the car pumping the brake.
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dmaxd03 Mar 1, 10:25pm - #114524 

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So how about some knowledgeable person write up a brake bleeding how to and post it in the installs section. It would be quite helpful as it is usually necessary installing braided brake lines and such.
Please? Ill beg...
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CID498 Mar 1, 10:45pm - #114525 

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Yeah yer right and also how to bleed a master cylinder as well I'll get on it as soon as I get a chance.

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slik_gts Mar 2, 12:36am - #114526 

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ok thnx for everyone's help, especially CID498 for his words of wisdom. i was able to succesfully do this and also the toyota sevice manual from my local library helped too as it showed how to bleed mmy system. but yes CID you showed, right up a guide for bleeding the whole system including the master cylinder, whenever you have time. you guys were right on the money about this stuff. thnx and now my brakes work 100 times better than the stock ones. i put on the AXXIS Ultimate brake bads that i got off ebay for $40 shipped. awesome stuff, and thnx again for ur help!! thumbsup

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CID498 Mar 2, 12:42am - #114527 

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thumbsup Glad you got it handled slik_gts.

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