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confused

so confused...

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i wish i knew too...

but i guess no one cares enough about an auto to try it..


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Originally Posted by ct
confused

so confused...
hopefully ill find out mine next week my homeboy(he posts here as calidrifter)he takes a dyno class and he can do it for free. i have the standard mods i/e/p on 18' so i dunno what stock would run but we'll see what mine pushes

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well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..

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Originally Posted by ct
well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..

see im not so sure about that b/c if an auto gts raced an manual si he would more than likely lose..so if gts are putting down 144 an si would be putting down around 128 so this doesn't seem true..


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Originally Posted by Spencer
Originally Posted by ct
well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..

see im not so sure about that b/c if an auto gts raced an manual si he would more than likely lose..so if gts are putting down 144 an si would be putting down around 128 so this doesn't seem true..

well horse power sometimes don't usually win a race from a stop...sometimes it's the jump of a manual that can be the difference...i know Gt 5speeds beat out GTS autos all the time...i think it also has to do with the gears as well, a GTS auto after all is a 4 speed.

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Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by Spencer
Originally Posted by ct
well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..

see im not so sure about that b/c if an auto gts raced an manual si he would more than likely lose..so if gts are putting down 144 an si would be putting down around 128 so this doesn't seem true..

well horse power sometimes don't usually win a race from a stop...sometimes it's the jump of a manual that can be the difference...i know Gt 5speeds beat out GTS autos all the time...i think it also has to do with the gears as well, a GTS auto after all is a 4 speed.

Yea, that makes sense bro grin

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Originally Posted by CeLlYgT04
Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by Spencer
Originally Posted by ct
well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..

see im not so sure about that b/c if an auto gts raced an manual si he would more than likely lose..so if gts are putting down 144 an si would be putting down around 128 so this doesn't seem true..

well horse power sometimes don't usually win a race from a stop...sometimes it's the jump of a manual that can be the difference...i know Gt 5speeds beat out GTS autos all the time...i think it also has to do with the gears as well, a GTS auto after all is a 4 speed.

Yea, that makes sense bro grin

Thanks a lot ct and yea it does cause i knew something wasn't adding up there... don't really have a good knowledge of tranny systems..which isn't all this is about but still thanks


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Originally Posted by Spencer
Originally Posted by CeLlYgT04
Originally Posted by ct
Originally Posted by Spencer
[quote=ct]well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..

see im not so sure about that b/c if an auto gts raced an manual si he would more than likely lose..so if gts are putting down 144 an si would be putting down around 128 so this doesn't seem true..

well horse power sometimes don't usually win a race from a stop...sometimes it's the jump of a manual that can be the difference...i know Gt 5speeds beat out GTS autos all the time...i think it also has to do with the gears as well, a GTS auto after all is a 4 speed.

Yea, that makes sense bro grin

Thanks a lot ct and yea it does cause i knew something wasn't adding up there... don't really have a good knowledge of tranny systems..which isn't all this is about but still thanks [/quote]


r these actual whp? i thought 6spd gts was about 160whp

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Originally Posted by stefanoc
Originally Posted by Spencer
Originally Posted by CeLlYgT04
Originally Posted by ct
[quote=Spencer][quote=ct]well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..

see im not so sure about that b/c if an auto gts raced an manual si he would more than likely lose..so if gts are putting down 144 an si would be putting down around 128 so this doesn't seem true..

well horse power sometimes don't usually win a race from a stop...sometimes it's the jump of a manual that can be the difference...i know Gt 5speeds beat out GTS autos all the time...i think it also has to do with the gears as well, a GTS auto after all is a 4 speed.

Yea, that makes sense bro grin

Thanks a lot ct and yea it does cause i knew something wasn't adding up there... don't really have a good knowledge of tranny systems..which isn't all this is about but still thanks [/quote]


r these actual whp? i thought 6spd gts was about 160whp [/quote]

the 6sp is around 155 i think...with CAI and exhaust it's pushing past 160...

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Originally Posted by ct
well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..
where do you get the 'rule' from?

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Originally Posted by beans
Originally Posted by ct
well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..
where do you get the 'rule' from?

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Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by beans
Originally Posted by ct
well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..
where do you get the 'rule' from?

His "thumb" tongue rofl

lol...actually it's just a generalized approximation of loss from the engine to the wheels found in many cars...like i saw at new celica that a stock GTS 6sp can do 151whp...so my approximation is relatively close..

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well i recall seeing a dyno for a 6 spd GTS running at 162 whp

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Originally Posted by Evan
Originally Posted by beans
Originally Posted by ct
well if you go by the 15% manual and 20% auto rule...in theory it should look like this

GTS 6sp-153 whp
GTS auto-144 whp
GT 5sp-119 whp
GT auto-112 whp

...give or take 2-3 horses..but then i'm not sure after seeing various dynos..
where do you get the 'rule' from?

His "thumb" tongue rofl
haha rofl

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Originally Posted by darksidecelica
well i recall seeing a dyno for a 6 spd GTS running at 162 whp
where?

that be cool

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