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WTF is lift?!?! #108905 Feb 22, 10:41am Feb 22, 10:41am
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WTF is lift?!?!
?!?!?!?!? confused confused confused

Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: Peterkwon87] #108906 Feb 22, 10:47am Feb 22, 10:47am
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on the cams of the GTS there is a second set of lobes. somewhere around 6000 rpm the engine swiches over and uses these more extreme lobes, which let more air in and out of the cylinder.


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Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: NorwayGT] #108907 Feb 22, 10:52am Feb 22, 10:52am
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is htat bad or good?

Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: Peterkwon87] #108908 Feb 22, 10:55am Feb 22, 10:55am
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Thats good.


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Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: GraSSRooTs] #108909 Feb 22, 11:04am Feb 22, 11:04am
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Originally Posted by GraSSRooTs
Thats good.

yea, its good, because more air = more power


was....5speed with i/h/e
15.41 @ 89.30mph 2.282 60'

is....04 srt4 stock
13.936 100.15mph 2.177 60'
Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: NorwayGT] #108910 Feb 22, 11:52am Feb 22, 11:52am
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Originally Posted by NorwayGT
Originally Posted by GraSSRooTs
Thats good.

yea, its good, because more air = more power


that gives you difference between the gt and the gts. 40hp
its like hondas v-tec. its basically something like a mini supercharger that kicks in after 6000rpm.

Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: stefanoc] #108911 Feb 22, 12:28pm Feb 22, 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by stefanoc
Originally Posted by NorwayGT
Originally Posted by GraSSRooTs
Thats good.

yea, its good, because more air = more power


that gives you difference between the gt and the gts. 40hp
its like hondas v-tec. its basically something like a mini supercharger that kicks in after 6000rpm.

Very good lamens terms explanation. I tried telling someone once what lift was by getting technical...he didnt understand it till I said 'just imagine once your going a certain RPM...getting a kick in the ass with 40hp.thumbsup

Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: LostAngel] #108912 Feb 22, 1:17pm Feb 22, 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by stefanoc
Originally Posted by NorwayGT
Originally Posted by GraSSRooTs
Thats good.

yea, its good, because more air = more power


that gives you difference between the gt and the gts. 40hp
its like hondas v-tec. its basically something like a mini supercharger that kicks in after 6000rpm.

Very good lamens terms explanation. I tried telling someone once what lift was by getting technical...he didnt understand it till I said 'just imagine once your going a certain RPM...getting a kick in the ass with 40hp.thumbsup




laughsilly Good analogy thumbsup

Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: CeLlYgT04] #108913 Feb 22, 1:23pm Feb 22, 1:23pm
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lift is when you hit 6000 rpm's
and then your car starts to transform.
once it hits 6k the front end lift's up,
the front wheels/axles extend out and form the arms and the passenger cabin forms a body and a head is formed by the Hood/Hood scoop.
then the rear axle and hatch separates into two legs and your 3 ft high wing spreads out and is finally usefull.
the engine at this point is capable of taking you to mach 2 and you basically waste that honda civic.
next thing you know it transforms back to a regular celica grin


rip celi...
95 240sx
Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: LostAngel] #108914 Feb 22, 1:45pm Feb 22, 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Originally Posted by stefanoc
Originally Posted by NorwayGT
Originally Posted by GraSSRooTs
Thats good.

yea, its good, because more air = more power


that gives you difference between the gt and the gts. 40hp
its like hondas v-tec. its basically something like a mini supercharger that kicks in after 6000rpm.

Very good lamens terms explanation. I tried telling someone once what lift was by getting technical...he didnt understand it till I said 'just imagine once your going a certain RPM...getting a kick in the ass with 40hp.thumbsup

rofl rofl rofl

Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: Peterkwon87] #108915 Feb 22, 2:14pm Feb 22, 2:14pm
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The 2ZZ-GE combines the VVT-i continuously variable Intake-valve-timing device with the new VVT-L, a Honda VTEC-like variable-lift and -timing system, employing two sets of cam profiles for both Intake and exhaust. Below 6000 rpm, the VVT-L employs the low- and mid-speed cam profiles, and above 6000 rpm, the high-speed profiles. The high-revving 2ZZ-GE's camshafts are sprayed with lubricant oil. Timing and lift characteristics of the 1ZZ-FE and 2ZZ-GE engine are shown in the table.

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Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: isaac] #108916 Feb 22, 2:19pm Feb 22, 2:19pm
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VVTL-i

The new 180hp Celica GTS (USA/CAN) now features the amazing VVTL-i engine developed by Toyota and Yamaha. Based on the standard 140hp 1.8 VVT-i, the VVTL-i has both Variable Valve Timing and Variable Valve Lift. The latter is achieved by an extra cam lobe that is brought into play by the engine electronics via a hydraulic actuator.

Interestingly, Toyota have set up the system so that the extra power kicks in over 5000 rpm. The torque curve of a VVTL-i is almost exactly the same as a VVT-i up to that point and then suddenly, where the VVT-i begins to run out of steam and revs, the new engine develops a new lease of life producing the extra 49 bhp right through to its 8000 rpm redline.
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The diagram below shows the two cams which are both always turning, and the hydraulic actuator that moves the 'Rocker Arm Pin' into place at a preset engine speed.

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Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: Peterkwon87] #108917 Feb 22, 2:29pm Feb 22, 2:29pm
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Excellent information. Lift=Good


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Re: WTF is lift?!?! [Re: Eyger] #108918 Feb 22, 6:06pm Feb 22, 6:06pm
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close to sex ... well if your in prison

lol actually it rocks as long as you don't have 3 people in your car


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