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Beating an EVO #100248 Feb 8, 10:26am Feb 8, 10:26am
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Beating an EVO
If it's true that the stratford turbo can get the gt to 251 hp to the wheels, is it possible to beat an evo because there's this guy in my neighborhood that has a red evo and everybody thinks he's the shit. So if I beat him, I would be the shit spineyes. Do you guys think if I get the SF Turbo, I would have a chance. thumbsup

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he would destroy you off the line, but if he's stock you coud prolly beat him, and if you raced from a role you would definately win


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idk, i think the evo would win.


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I dunno, off the line he would murder you, because of the torque factor, but you might stand a chance confused

Re: Beating an EVO [Re: Spanish_celica] #100252 Feb 8, 11:54am Feb 8, 11:54am
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Depends...if you get the Turbo, you would still need some extra mods to fill the gap of the HP difference.

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I think the Evo would beat you. I say this only going by numbers I read in magazines and I know people here don't want to go by those kind of numbers including myself. I read that a stock Evo can go 0-60 in 4.7 (high 4's) even faster than an STI according to 1 mag. I once read about a 2000 MR2 with a turbo putting 280 whp I believe that went 0-60 in 4.8 to 4.9 sec. You have to take into consideration also on how you are going to put 250+ HP to the ground if on stock tires, clutch, and open differential. I'm not sure though. I would get the turbo and try racing him. Even if you lose I'm sure you will love the turbo. Just don't wager pink slips.

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teh gt with teh stafford kit around the hp would have around 220 wtq, so it would be close 1/4 mile i'd go with EVO from a role it would be close but i'd still go with EVO


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Re: Beating an EVO [Re: Spanish_celica] #100255 Feb 8, 2:23pm Feb 8, 2:23pm
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he may beat u, but ur celi is still 10 times better looking than the half-family four-door sedan

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if you get the turbo, DR's, a h type lsd, and can drive you will win.

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i would worry to much about it. EVos arent even in the same class. Nt even near the same class. But with a turbo, Intake, headers, exhaust, pullies, lighter flywheel you could probably win if he was running stock. You could always turn up the psi on the turbo. But if he has modded it forget it. Evo are fast cars with 10 second potential.

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Originally Posted by spaztikid
if you get the turbo, DR's, a h type lsd, and can drive you will win.

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Originally Posted by cRodz
he may beat u, but ur celi is still 10 times better looking than the half-family four-door sedan

exactly! thumbsup

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Main problem you'll have is the launch. Turbos don't offer any help in the very low-end, where the Celi already has problems anyway. Not to mention you'd be launching your FWD against his AWD... another handicap for you. From a rolling start you might have a chance, but it'd likely still go to him.

You'd be running up a pretty big bill to actually be sure to take him. Besides a turbo, exhaust, and short shifter, you'd probably need a good 30-50 shot of nitrous. That's assuming both you can drive. spineyes


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Originally Posted by cRodz
he may beat u, but ur celi is still 10 times better looking than the half-family four-door sedan



no it definatly is not better looking the evo is mean as hell looking what are you a girl anyway

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Originally Posted by spyder00367
i would worry to much about it. EVos arent even in the same class. Nt even near the same class. But with a turbo, intake, headers, exhaust, pullies, lighter flywheel you could probably win if he was running stock. You could always turn up the psi on the turbo. But if he has modded it forget it. Evo are fast cars with 10 second potential.

you can't really put aftermarket headers or Intake with a turbo, its comes with its own


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and no the celica wont beat an evo they are low 13 to high 12 cars and i dont think a turbo kit will take 3 to 4 seconds off the 1/4 mile time and even if you are gonna raise the boost you wont be able to rais it to high unless you have internals , celica isnt in the same class so forget about it

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and no the celica wont beat an evo they are low 13 to high 12 cars and i dont think a turbo kit will take 3 to 4 seconds off the 1/4 mile time and even if you are gonna raise the boost you wont be able to rais it to high unless you have internals , celica isnt in the same class so forget about it

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Originally Posted by My Sixth Gear
Originally Posted by spyder00367
i would worry to much about it. EVos arent even in the same class. Nt even near the same class. But with a turbo, intake, headers, exhaust, pullies, lighter flywheel you could probably win if he was running stock. You could always turn up the psi on the turbo. But if he has modded it forget it. Evo are fast cars with 10 second potential.

you can't really put aftermarket headers or intake with a turbo, its comes with its own

you dont know what your talking about


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Re: Beating an EVO [Re: boxer4turbo] #100266 Feb 8, 8:16pm Feb 8, 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
Originally Posted by cRodz
he may beat u, but ur celi is still 10 times better looking than the half-family four-door sedan



no it definatly is not better looking the evo is mean as hell looking what are you a girl anyway


yes, a 4 door family car is sooo attractive...

oh wait, you drive one too iamstfu


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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
Originally Posted by cRodz
he may beat u, but ur celi is still 10 times better looking than the half-family four-door sedan



no it definatly is not better looking the evo is mean as hell looking what are you a girl anyway


yes, a 4 door family car is sooo attractive...

oh wait, you drive one too iamstfu


oh sorry i wanted to break the 13 second barrier sometime this lifetime oops and its funny my 4door sedan will ill ur sporty lil coupe lol cry

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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
Originally Posted by cRodz
he may beat u, but ur celi is still 10 times better looking than the half-family four-door sedan



no it definatly is not better looking the evo is mean as hell looking what are you a girl anyway


yes, a 4 door family car is sooo attractive...

oh wait, you drive one too iamstfu


lmao... rofl

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come on i know you guys are mad that 4 door sedans are faster then ur coupes and if you dont admit it i know its killing you inside smile

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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
come on i know you guys are mad that 4 door sedans are faster then ur coupes and if you dont admit it i know its killing you inside smile


Yeah, and a legally retarded guy on a stock $4k bike with parts falling off can kick your ass. Speed ain't everything.


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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
come on i know you guys are mad that 4 door sedans are faster then ur coupes and if you dont admit it i know its killing you inside smile


If I wanted a faster car, I would have bought one.

If I wanted an ugly, built in american with an import price car with more lag than Counter Strike over 56K, I'd have bought a Subaru.

And what's with the cup holder in the middle of the dash way up there?

Talk about classy design. thatsfunny WRX


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Originally Posted by RevMonster
Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
come on i know you guys are mad that 4 door sedans are faster then ur coupes and if you dont admit it i know its killing you inside smile


Yeah, and a legally retarded guy on a stock $4k bike with parts falling off can kick your ass. Speed ain't everything.


ok and a monkey flying af 15 can beat ur 4k bike and speed isnt everything my car looks damn good

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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo

Originally Posted by RevMonster

Originally Posted by boxer4turbo

come on i know you guys are mad that 4 door sedans are faster then ur coupes and if you dont admit it i know its killing you inside smile


Yeah, and a legally retarded guy on a stock $4k bike with parts falling off can kick your ass. Speed ain't everything.


ok and a monkey flying af 15 can beat ur 4k bike and speed isnt everything my car looks damn good


Which part looks damn good, the ugly bug eye front lamps, or the team crafted in indiana interior? puke rice


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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
come on i know you guys are mad that 4 door sedans are faster then ur coupes and if you dont admit it i know its killing you inside smile


If I wanted a faster car, I would have bought one.

If I wanted an ugly, built in american with an import price car with more lag than Counter Strike over 56K, I'd have bought a Subaru.

And what's with the cup holder in the middle of the dash way up there?

Talk about classy design. thatsfunny WRX


see i dont care what you say about my car i love it , i had a celica it was to slow so i bought a wrx which is way faster talk all the shit you want i dont care i can rag on you all day about how many girls around here drive celicas but i wont and what is up with the fake ass autoshifting that comes with the auto gts , its for the fake ass street racers that cant drive stick yet lol

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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
come on i know you guys are mad that 4 door sedans are faster then ur coupes and if you dont admit it i know its killing you inside smile


If I wanted a faster car, I would have bought one.

If I wanted an ugly, built in american with an import price car with more lag than Counter Strike over 56K, I'd have bought a Subaru.

And what's with the cup holder in the middle of the dash way up there?

Talk about classy design. thatsfunny WRX


see i dont care what you say about my car i love it , i had a celica it was to slow so i bought a wrx which is way faster talk all the shit you want i dont care i can rag on you all day about how many girls around here drive celicas but i wont and what is up with the fake ass autoshifting that comes with the auto gts , its for the fake ass street racers that cant drive stick yet lol


WRX faster than a Celica? I don't think so. thatsfunny You

I wouldn't know about autoshifting, I don't drive one wink


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lol thats funny you really think a celica is faster, huh??? are you gonna say with a good driver the celica would beat the wrx if the wrx had a horrible driver or the celica is fully modded vs a stock wrx

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or did you mean to say the celica LOOKS faster then the wrx lol thumbsup rofl rofl

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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
lol thats funny you really think a celica is faster, huh??? are you gonna say with a good driver the celica would beat the wrx if the wrx had a horrible driver or the celica is fully modded vs a stock wrx


Me vs stock wrx, they will lose. I've never lost to one.

AWD drive train loss is a BITCH wink


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It's interresting, isn't it, that people who drive other types of cars feel the need to come to a CELICA site, and start running their mouths talking shit about our cars? I can't think of a single time that I have ever gone to any other forum and told the people there that their cars are shit. In fact, i have a healthy respect for car entusiasts in general, whether they drive a ZO6 corvette, a rotary powered Mazda RX-7, a SUBARU, an evo, a celica, or any other car ever produced! I have my own personal taste in cars, but i have the SAME passion about my car that every other car enthusiast has about their particular car. I don't understand why people have to have to try to put other people down to feeel better about themselves, especially when they are really quite similar in their interrests!


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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
or did you mean to say the celica LOOKS faster then the wrx lol thumbsup rofl rofl


looks, and is. Leave the grocery getter for taking your mom to wal-mart in the snow wave


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yea and a WRX isn't that much quicker than a stock GTS, so ur car ins't all that


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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
lol thats funny you really think a celica is faster, huh??? are you gonna say with a good driver the celica would beat the wrx if the wrx had a horrible driver or the celica is fully modded vs a stock wrx


Me vs stock wrx, they will lose. I've never lost to one.

AWD drive train loss is a BITCH wink


i see you stayed away from modded wrx's , race a wrx with just a full turboback exuast only and you will get ass raped and you probably raced horrible drivers which isnt that fun and by the way im not the one that started talkin shit about cars and about other people in other sites this post is about a honda civic racing a lancer from a civic site so dont say anything about staying to ur own sites

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the stock wrx puts down as much HP as the stock GTS, and the GTS weighs 500+ lbs less, so after the GTS overcomes the WRX's launch (which most drivers can't do, anyways) it's bye bye WRX rofl

get your facts straight before you come here and bash. grin


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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
lol thats funny you really think a celica is faster, huh??? are you gonna say with a good driver the celica would beat the wrx if the wrx had a horrible driver or the celica is fully modded vs a stock wrx


Me vs stock wrx, they will lose. I've never lost to one.

AWD drive train loss is a BITCH wink


i see you stayed away from modded wrx's , race a wrx with just a full turboback exuast only and you will get ass raped and you probably raced horrible drivers which isnt that fun and by the way im not the one that started talkin shit about cars and about other people in other sites this post is about a honda civic racing a lancer from a civic site so dont say anything about staying to ur own sites


wanna race that against the XS turbo GTS?

we could sit here and one up each other all night, but I've got better things to do.

GTS > WRX the numbers say it, the looks say it.

If you don't like that, call me a fanboy and go over to everythingscooby.com wave


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a Wrx with a good driver runs low 14s a gts with a good driver runs mid to high 14s so the GTS isn't that much slower than a turboed AWD car.. but on highway the GTS is pretty even with the WRX


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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
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or did you mean to say the celica LOOKS faster then the wrx lol thumbsup rofl rofl


looks, and is. Leave the grocery getter for taking your mom to wal-mart in the snow wave


but my grocery getter is still faster then ur lil sport lookin coupe lol

Re: Beating an EVO [Re: boxer4turbo] #100287 Feb 8, 9:37pm Feb 8, 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo

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or did you mean to say the celica LOOKS faster then the wrx lol thumbsup rofl rofl


looks, and is. Leave the grocery getter for taking your mom to wal-mart in the snow wave


but my grocery getter is still faster then ur lil sport lookin coupe lol


No, it's not.

Sorry it's so hard for you to come to terms with the 227HP turning into --> 158 WHP


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Re: Beating an EVO [Re: DiabloGTS] #100288 Feb 8, 9:38pm Feb 8, 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
or did you mean to say the celica LOOKS faster then the wrx lol thumbsup rofl rofl


looks, and is. Leave the grocery getter for taking your mom to wal-mart in the snow wave


but my grocery getter is still faster then ur lil sport lookin coupe lol


No, it's not.

Sorry it's so hard for you to come to terms with the 227HP turning into --> 158 WHP

it is a big drive train loss but its to all the wheels not just 2


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Re: Beating an EVO [Re: DiabloGTS] #100289 Feb 8, 9:39pm Feb 8, 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
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Originally Posted by DiabloGTS
[quote=boxer4turbo]lol thats funny you really think a celica is faster, huh??? are you gonna say with a good driver the celica would beat the wrx if the wrx had a horrible driver or the celica is fully modded vs a stock wrx


Me vs stock wrx, they will lose. I've never lost to one.

AWD drive train loss is a BITCH wink


i see you stayed away from modded wrx's , race a wrx with just a full turboback exuast only and you will get ass raped and you probably raced horrible drivers which isnt that fun and by the way im not the one that started talkin shit about cars and about other people in other sites this post is about a honda civic racing a lancer from a civic site so dont say anything about staying to ur own sites


wanna race that against the XS turbo GTS?

we could sit here and one up each other all night, but I've got better things to do.

GTS > WRX the numbers say it, the looks say it.

If you don't like that, call me a fanboy and go over to everythingscooby.com wave [/q

numbers dont say it wrx wins it with the nmbers sorry to burst ur bubble and thats ur opinion that the celica looks better then the wrx. and if you want to talk about looks the sti kills celica in everything lol you dont have a match for that so sorry

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no it definatly is not better looking the evo is mean as hell looking what are you a girl anyway


Funny... you ARE the first person that made any hostile comments...

And furthermore, i was not telling you to stay on your own forums. I would welcome you here if you could somehow manage to share our enthusiasm for modding our cars, and making them look better and go faster, instead of putting us down because you think your car is better. Honestly, i like WRX's. In fact, when i was in the market for a car (when i bought my celi), I looked at WRX's, drove a couple, LIKED THEM, but i decided to go with the celica because i like the looks more. My car fits my taste very well, as I'm sure that your car fits yours. Fact of the matter is, we are ALL: you, me, diablo, and everyone else on this site, car enthusiasts. We love cars, we love making them fast, we love making them look different from any other car out there, and we like to talk about it. I, however, don't like to have a pissing contest about who;s car is better.



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how many celica's breakin that 300 hp mark out there anybody ???? didnt think so , there is just sooooo much to do with a celica isnt there they have so many body kits out there for a celica hmmm kinda reminds me of something 2f2f lol

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Originally Posted by boxer4turbo
how many celica's breakin that 300 hp mark out there anybody ???? didnt think so , there is just sooooo much to do with a celica isnt there they have so many body kits out there for a celica hmmm kinda reminds me of something 2f2f lol


The new hotchkis tuning celica... 300+ hp featured in the last super street mag if you wanna cehck it out wave


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any celica with a 3sgte swap has over 300hp


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Re: Beating an EVO [Re: boxer4turbo] #100294 Feb 8, 9:47pm Feb 8, 9:47pm
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talking about different cars, want to race the STi vs a 600 WHP supra? I don't think so.

GTS > WRX

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no it definatly is not better looking the evo is mean as hell looking what are you a girl anyway


Funny... you ARE the first person that made any hostile comments...

And furthermore, i was not telling you to stay on your own forums. I would welcome you here if you could somehow manage to share our enthusiasm for modding our cars, and making them look better and go faster, instead of putting us down because you think your car is better. Honestly, i like WRX's. In fact, when i was in the market for a car (when i bought my celi), I looked at WRX's, drove a couple, LIKED THEM, but i decided to go with the celica because i like the looks more. My car fits my taste very well, as I'm sure that your car fits yours. Fact of the matter is, we are ALL: you, me, diablo, and everyone else on this site, car enthusiasts. We love cars, we love making them fast, we love making them look different from any other car out there, and we like to talk about it. I, however, don't like to have a pissing contest about who;s car is better.

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actually i wasnt the first one read the post further up. and i do share enthusiam in imports

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oh ya when was the last supra to come out ? and they already have 600 hp sti's out

Re: Beating an EVO [Re: boxer4turbo] #100297 Feb 8, 9:51pm Feb 8, 9:51pm
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Quote:
no it definatly is not better looking the evo is mean as hell looking what are you a girl anyway


Funny... you ARE the first person that made any hostile comments...

And furthermore, i was not telling you to stay on your own forums. I would welcome you here if you could somehow manage to share our enthusiasm for modding our cars, and making them look better and go faster, instead of putting us down because you think your car is better. Honestly, i like WRX's. In fact, when i was in the market for a car (when i bought my celi), I looked at WRX's, drove a couple, LIKED THEM, but i decided to go with the celica because i like the looks more. My car fits my taste very well, as I'm sure that your car fits yours. Fact of the matter is, we are ALL: you, me, diablo, and everyone else on this site, car enthusiasts. We love cars, we love making them fast, we love making them look different from any other car out there, and we like to talk about it. I, however, don't like to have a pissing contest about who;s car is better.

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actually i wasnt the first one read the post further up. and i do share enthusiam in imports [/quote]

too bad your car isn't an import, it's made in Indiana thatsfunny


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